Matthoek21
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Good job everyone. I got 8 miles in saturday and sunday but nothing today so far. Might get one in tonight. Busy day. I did deliver 150 forklift cylinders. So I guess I got an upper body workout.
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coastalarms
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Got in a good hike with my wife and the dogs this weekend. Only about 5 miles, half up and half down. Today it was strength training, squats, and resistance bands for the shoulders/arms/chest/back. Only 124 days till the rifle opener here in Oregon 
Work2hunt
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Thanks. Unfortunately this is move week so I'm thinking my mileage will equal zero for the whole week.
But on a good note I felt awesome after that run and think I could have kept going for a couple more miles. However, I shut my self down as I want to make sure I build my strength and conditioning and not risk shin splints, plantar faciuitis, and my other ailments from last year.
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So I've added a gym membership to the bag of tricks. Gonna see if that helps me with my hammy tightness and a mild groin pull.
Going into a new training cycle with an August 15 event as the target event. Since that is opening Day of Archery Season, I'll aim for a trail race the week Prior (August 9).
Missed the last 2 weekends of trail runs doing 3d Broadhead shoots. I'm confident out to 60 yards with my hunting setup. Broadheads and all.
Going into a new training cycle with an August 15 event as the target event. Since that is opening Day of Archery Season, I'll aim for a trail race the week Prior (August 9).
Missed the last 2 weekends of trail runs doing 3d Broadhead shoots. I'm confident out to 60 yards with my hunting setup. Broadheads and all.
tim
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npadden
how do you take in calories on your big runs? lots of gu's or any other tricks. just curious. or are the runs never over 2 hours and you don't need to bring in calories?
thanks
tim
how do you take in calories on your big runs? lots of gu's or any other tricks. just curious. or are the runs never over 2 hours and you don't need to bring in calories?
thanks
tim
I generally don't take in any calories if the run is 3 hours or less. I often do that first thing in the morning without eating any breakfast as well. In theory that helps your body learn to convert fat for fuel and makes you more efficient. I've worked myself up to that over time though, not saying that would work for everyone. My wife couldn't run a mile without eating breakfast in the morning.
If I'm going over 3 hours I'll eat some calories, if I'm racing I'll do GU simply because of the ease of use and digestion. On my 50 miler I had a mix of real food and GU and ended up having an upset stomach for a while and went a long stretch without eating. One tip that I had read was to drink carbonated beverages and that might help so I drank coke and ginger ale at the aid stations for about 2 hours and finally got back to being able to eat again. Over the course of the 50 miles I calculated out that I burned just under 8,000 calories so you have to eat during that kind of a run, no if's, ands, or buts about it.
I've been experimenting with other stuff (gummy snacks, bananas, etc.) as well on some of my longer runs. On a 31.6 mile training run I ate 2 bags of fruit snacks (gummies @ 100 calories per bag), 2 banannas and a couple miniature chocolate bars. I think I could have actually pulled that run off without eating anything, but I was practicing my fueling for my 50 mile race.
One thing I've learned is to stay away from dairy products right before or during a run. At least for me that is a recipe for discomfort.
GU is probably the safest thing, and a known intake number, but after 10 of them in one race you can get tired of them pretty quick.
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tim
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thanks for the reply, I was just curious, what I have seen is once I start going over the 4 hour mark, I need some protein.
years ago when I was guiding, I had to keep up on my first aid and cpr, I was taking a wilderness first aid class, the instructor talked a lot about fueling the body. his approach was the fire method. tinder, kindling and logs. if you apply food to that, it makes sense. gu's tinder; nuts, kindling; jerky, sausage, etc logs.
the instructor really like m and m peanuts. Tinder and kindling in one. I have been using a nut mix with dried pineapple in it. works pretty good. But once I get into that 4 hour mark, I need some sausage, jerky something, But I have to have tinder and kindling with my log. if I just eat the log, it don't sit well, just like if you put a log in tinder, nothing happens, but a little kindling on the tinder and than add the log. fire up big.
anyway just curious, mainly because I am entering the stage where I start doing 6 hour rides on a regular basis and I need fuel in the body. I have plans for a 33 mile, 6600 vert feet ride down by Yellowstone at the end of the month. mile to sheep. should take about 6 hours.
years ago when I was guiding, I had to keep up on my first aid and cpr, I was taking a wilderness first aid class, the instructor talked a lot about fueling the body. his approach was the fire method. tinder, kindling and logs. if you apply food to that, it makes sense. gu's tinder; nuts, kindling; jerky, sausage, etc logs.
the instructor really like m and m peanuts. Tinder and kindling in one. I have been using a nut mix with dried pineapple in it. works pretty good. But once I get into that 4 hour mark, I need some sausage, jerky something, But I have to have tinder and kindling with my log. if I just eat the log, it don't sit well, just like if you put a log in tinder, nothing happens, but a little kindling on the tinder and than add the log. fire up big.
anyway just curious, mainly because I am entering the stage where I start doing 6 hour rides on a regular basis and I need fuel in the body. I have plans for a 33 mile, 6600 vert feet ride down by Yellowstone at the end of the month. mile to sheep. should take about 6 hours.
tim
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Tonight I am back in the saddle for a good weights workout.
5 rounds
Upright row 45x10
DB Deadlift 60x8
Elevated push ups 10
DB Curls 30x8
Tire flips
Tire drag
Sledge Hammer
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5 rounds
Upright row 45x10
DB Deadlift 60x8
Elevated push ups 10
DB Curls 30x8
Tire flips
Tire drag
Sledge Hammer
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Tim, I think it is all going to come down to personal preference. I don't think there is really a requirement to consume protein or fat, but if it works, it works. I think your body is going to have a hard time breaking down protein or fat and actually converting it to something useful in less than 4 or 5 hours so eating protein or fat toward the end of a 6 hour ride/run is going to be more of a mental thing than a physiological thing.
Most of the top end endurance athletes simplify it to the point that they literally drink 100% of the calories they consume during an event. That even includes some doing 24 hour races. They will mix up a formula of stuff in a squirt type bottle and take a drink of it every 10 or 15 minutes. If I remember correctly one guy consumed the equivalent of 100 GU's in a 24 hour race.
Most of the top end endurance athletes simplify it to the point that they literally drink 100% of the calories they consume during an event. That even includes some doing 24 hour races. They will mix up a formula of stuff in a squirt type bottle and take a drink of it every 10 or 15 minutes. If I remember correctly one guy consumed the equivalent of 100 GU's in a 24 hour race.
Hill workout for me last night on the treadmill at the house. Set the incline at 10% and started out at 5.0 mph. Figured out pretty quick that was going to take a lot more effort to maintain than I was planning on so I backed it off to 4.0 mph and held it at a brisk walk for a bit to get my cardio levels more in line with what I was wanting and then ended up alternating back and forth between the brisk walk at 4.0 mph and a very slow jog at 4.4 mph. After a mile of that I leveled it back out to a 1% incline and 6.6 mph and knocked out an easy mile then went back to the 10% incline and going back and forth between 4.0 and 4.4 about half and half. Went back to 1% incline and 6.6 mph for another mile and then finished it out with the last mile at 10% incline going back and forth between 4.0 and 4.4 mph before finishing out the last couple minutes at 5.0 mph.
The machine showed a final total of 1,680' elevation gain with the vast bulk of that coming on those 3 miles at 10% incline. Ended up with just 5 miles in 60 minutes and 33 seconds for an average pace of 12:07 per mile. It was a much tougher workout than a standard 60 minutes at 6.6 mph and a 1% incline with an average pace of 9:05 per mile though.
Not a perfect replication of a mountain run, but about as close as I can get in Lubbock, Texas.
The machine showed a final total of 1,680' elevation gain with the vast bulk of that coming on those 3 miles at 10% incline. Ended up with just 5 miles in 60 minutes and 33 seconds for an average pace of 12:07 per mile. It was a much tougher workout than a standard 60 minutes at 6.6 mph and a 1% incline with an average pace of 9:05 per mile though.
Not a perfect replication of a mountain run, but about as close as I can get in Lubbock, Texas.
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tim
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I usually run a combo on new school and old school nutrion for activities. John Stamsaad one of the original gods of endurance cycling, ran off of jelly donuts. That man set a lot of 24 hour cycling records.
We where on one ride that lasted 8 hours, around the 6 hour mark I was getting real tired. Ate a little bit of bear sausage and wow, 15 minutes later I felt pretty good. I guess I sometimes need some real food, when doing the big activities.
it is Wednesday, getting out of work a little early to go do a nice ride tonight. probably 13 miles and 3000 vert of climbing.
I usually run a combo on new school and old school nutrion for activities. John Stamsaad one of the original gods of endurance cycling, ran off of jelly donuts. That man set a lot of 24 hour cycling records.
We where on one ride that lasted 8 hours, around the 6 hour mark I was getting real tired. Ate a little bit of bear sausage and wow, 15 minutes later I felt pretty good. I guess I sometimes need some real food, when doing the big activities.
it is Wednesday, getting out of work a little early to go do a nice ride tonight. probably 13 miles and 3000 vert of climbing.
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I hope I don't regret this run in the morning. Heading out with Dan P for a last chance bear hunt.
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25contender
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Did my weekly full pack hike yesterday afternoon right at 4 miles. A little tougher now since they timbered the entire area. Still not to bad.
Bonecollector
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tim
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mountain biking in elk country
Wednesday nights ride, more elk country
I am lucky in that I have superb riding minutes from the house.
Wednesday nights ride, more elk country
I am lucky in that I have superb riding minutes from the house.
Head in the Clouds
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I spent two hours at the flooded archery swamp this afternoon. Unfortunately, I broke a knock and cracked a shaft.
Then, I hit the gym for kettle bell bear crawls, farmers walks, split squats, and alligator crawls. I had a little soreness from back and heavy leg work the last two days so the stairs should be fun tomorrow.
Then, I hit the gym for kettle bell bear crawls, farmers walks, split squats, and alligator crawls. I had a little soreness from back and heavy leg work the last two days so the stairs should be fun tomorrow.
coastalarms
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went out today and my shins are killing me. I've been trying to vary my speed both on the treadmill and when hiking. I had a really great hike a couple weeks ago and so I started ramping it up. Since then my left shin feels like it's on fire when I push it at all.
Weights have been getting easier since I started doing them consistently (what a shock).
Weights have been getting easier since I started doing them consistently (what a shock
).