I am 100% with Guy on this. I wont mention any names but I will tell you my turn off years ago about SFW. I attended several banquets contributed lots of hard earned money and time to a good cause until that one evening when I heard the big wigs and ass kissers all mingling and one individual said " Well i have to go and do my thing with all these low life hillbillys" I could not believe what I had just heard. I have not nor will I ever participate in anything to do with SFW or MDF. Its all about the money!!!!! As for the DWR.... wow, thats a whole nother ball game.