Win 6.8

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What are your thoughts on the 6.8? This article states it’s much better than most of the 6 mm rounds and even better than the 7mag as well as the 300 in a few categories. Quite honestly I only agree with being better than the 6MM. The 7 still outshines as do the other large caliber’s using large for caliber bullets.
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I just read about that this morning. I find myself being a little skeptical of this. I’d like to see it, before I completely knock it. Sounds interesting, but how many different rifles do we need. I can’t see it outcompeting a 7mag or .300. I’m kinda biased towards .300s, I have 3 of them. I also have a 6.5, don’t really use it much, more for my kids to shoot. But again, not sure what void the 6.8 would fill. We’ll see I guess.
 
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I believe that the 6.8 will do a lot better than the 6.5 Creed just because of the heavier bullets that will be available for it.

But like all new rounds time will tell if it will make it
 
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It fills a certain niche. It's a shorter version of the 270 wsm. The 6.8 western allows you to run heavies out long and still be at a length to fit inside of a short action magazine. It would probably be a very good cartridge for a lightweight backpacking rifle.
 
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Just another new fangled gimmick for the folks who always want the latest & greatest. I guess Winchester felt like they needed to compete with Hornady, Nosler and others. If they really wanted it to sell they should have called it the 6.8 Creedmoorandmoreandmore. It'll probably be as popular as their line of SSM's
 
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better or worse is merely opinion.

my thoughts are............. better to have a gun that is a more common caliber in this day and age simply for availability of ammo.

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There is always room for one more cartridge.

However time will tell if it is around in a dozen years or not.

The same can be said of any of the short magnums, Ruger and Nosler propriety rounds, or any of the others out there.
 
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local feed and farm store had about 10 boxes of ammo for this.
only ammo they had.
will a 270wsm shoot in this or are they different enough to not allow that?
 
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tim said:
local feed and farm store had about 10 boxes of ammo for this.
only ammo they had.
will a 270wsm shoot in this or are they different enough to not allow that?
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Way different. I believe that the 6.8 is based on the 404 Jeffery round and shortened up
 
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JimP said:
Way different. I believe that the 6.8 is based on the 404 Jeffery round and shortened up
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it is actually based off of the 270wsm round, which i believe is based off of the 404.
from what i have seen winchester took the 270wsm and just changed it enough to fit heavy for caliber bullets to fit better. Looking at them side by side, it would be really hard to tell them apart. 6.8western and 270wsm
 
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Ok, that is what I get to try and remember things. You know that after 60 things start to get fuzzy from what you read and what you type.

Looking at the two cartridges on the SAAMI site you may be able to shoot the 6.8 Western in the 270 WSM but you may have problems with the larger bullet in the 6.8.

Here are the two SAAMI sheets for each cartridge that you can compare back and forth:
 

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6.8 western... a shorter 270wsm..... makes almost no sense to me!

I always thought a 7mm-6.5prc would be a sweet setup.... although I'm not sure case capacity vs .284win?

I also can't seem to find accurate numbers on a .284win loaded at higher modern pressures, especially with 140-160gr bullets.

also if guys are really looking at that 500-1000yd rifle....i doubt they pick a 6.8western, or 270wsm for that purpose!

guys looking for a 0-500yd rifle, I keep saying, a 300wsm with 150gr at 3300fps is lethal and that setup needs far less barrel length to get'er done than a 6.5, 270, 7mm...., 22-23-24"
 
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HuskyMusky said:
6.8 western... a shorter 270wsm..... makes almost no sense to me!

I always thought a 7mm-6.5prc would be a sweet setup.... although I'm not sure case capacity vs .284win?

I also can't seem to find accurate numbers on a .284win loaded at higher modern pressures, especially with 140-160gr bullets.

also if guys are really looking at that 500-1000yd rifle....i doubt they pick a 6.8western, or 270wsm for that purpose!

guys looking for a 0-500yd rifle, I keep saying, a 300wsm with 150gr at 3300fps is lethal and that setup needs far less barrel length to get'er done than a 6.5, 270, 7mm...., 22-23-24"
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The idea of the 6.8 was a longer and heaver bullet that a normal WSM or just a plain old 270 Win could not stabilize with it's rate of twist in the barrel.

Yes you could change out the barrel in either one and shoot longer and heaver bullets but then that would cut down the weight of bullet that you can shoot accurately in either. That along with the shorter case of the 6.8 allows for the longer bullet than what you might be able to achieve with the 270 wsm or the 270 Win.
 
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JimP said:
The idea of the 6.8 was a longer and heaver bullet that a normal WSM or just a plain old 270 Win could not stabilize with it's rate of twist in the barrel.

Yes you could change out the barrel in either one and shoot longer and heaver bullets but then that would cut down the weight of bullet that you can shoot accurately in either. That along with the shorter case of the 6.8 allows for the longer bullet than what you might be able to achieve with the 270 wsm or the 270 Win.
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exactly, put a different twist on the 270wsm.... if you wanted, also what's the highest bc of a 270 bullet? I assume the 6.5 and 7mm will beat them.

also the shorter case...? can't you just use the longer case and longer bullet and seat the bullet wherever you want....ie, don't use the powder space of the 270wsm....if you don't need it, but you have it vs the 6.8wsm.... doesn't seem to do much for me... at all.

seems like many better options out there for long range, high BC's, etc....
 
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A lot of that would benefit the hand loader but in factory rounds you will never find that 174 grain bullet in a WSM or a standard 270.

But time will tell if this round stays or goes the way of the dodo bird. It appears that Browning and Winchester are putting their money on it. Even if they are owned by the same company.
 
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