I also use the Black Diamond with the cork handles. A few years ago, two of us backpacked into some tough WY territory & were snow/fogged in for the first 3 days. On the morning of day 4, I poked my head out of the tent & some deer were at the edge of the fog-line. I sat in the snow in my long johns and used the crossed poles as a very firm shooting platform. I had practiced with them, and it can make for a very secure base if needed.Thanks for the info everyone. I'll keep browsing around and see what I end up with. Anyone use them to rest a gun on or anything like that?