Tag/point system

JimP

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I will look into the ranching for wildlife program and see if it will be of help.

The Ranching for Wildlife in Colorado is set up so that the ranchers/outfitters can get X amount of tags for private hunts.
Utah's CWMU program is the same and Utah has some huge bulls on these ranches

You would not be eligible for any of the draws for them but can contract a hunt with the ranches directly by contacting the ranch or outfitter for that ranch directly, no draw needed.
 

s8mdevo

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The Ranching for Wildlife in Colorado is set up so that the ranchers/outfitters can get X amount of tags for private hunts.
Utah's CWMU program is the same and Utah has some huge bulls on these ranches

You would not be eligible for any of the draws for them but can contract a hunt with the ranches directly by contacting the ranch or outfitter for that ranch directly, no draw needed.
Would these be the most expensive way of getting out there do you think? Sounds like you would pay a premium for the opportunity to hunt with no draw needed. What would a ballpark figure be for a hunt of this description?
 

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Idaho has over the counter tags for deer,elk,and bear.You can also apply for controlled hunt draw tags for limited areas for moose,elk, antelope, deer, sheep,and goat. If you don't draw a controlled hunt,you simply buy an O.T.C. tag for deer,elk or bear. If you are not set on a trophy, you should be able to get some tags filled,and see some awesome country. I would log on to the Idaho Fish & Game web-site for more info. You can buy your'e license on line,and apply for the controlled hunts. If you want to hunt in 2016,this is the way to go, i would not be applying for points in other states,as your'e way behind in order to draw something great. Just my opinion, good luck let,let me know if you have any more questions..
 

JimP

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Would these be the most expensive way of getting out there do you think? Sounds like you would pay a premium for the opportunity to hunt with no draw needed. What would a ballpark figure be for a hunt of this description?
It does cost more but it depends on how long you are willing to wait to draw a tag and then hire a outfitter if you don't want to do a do it yourself type of hunt. Also the vast majority of outfitters will have access to private land tags that you can purchase from them if you sign a contract with them for your outfitted hunt. But I like the RFW in Colorado and the CWMU ranches and outfitters in Utah just for the fact that they at least let resident hunters onto their property if they draw a tag where a lot of private land outfitters will be the only ones hunting that land.

Here are a couple of links for the ranches you'll have to do a little digging by clicking on the ranch name to find out who to contact for a outfitted hunt if that is what you would like to do.

Colorado RWF Ranches

Utah CWMU Ranches
 
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Slugz

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It does cost more but it depends on how long you are willing to wait to draw a tag and then hire a outfitter if you don't want to do a do it yourself type of hunt. Also the vast majority of outfitters will have access to private land tags that you can purchase from them if you sign a contract with them for your outfitted hunt. But I like the RFW in Colorado and the CWMU ranches and outfitters in Utah just for the fact that they at least let resident hunters onto their property if they draw a tag where a lot of private land outfitters will be the only ones hunting that land.

Here are a couple of links for the ranches you'll have to do a little digging by clicking on the ranch name to find out who to contact for a outfitted hunt if that is what you would like to do.

Colorado RWF Ranches

Utah CWMU Ranches
Your gonna pay rather nicely for those IMO......I don't know how much exactly but I got a rough idea......economics/supply/demand/ are gonna drive that number to the higher end...plenty of people are wiling to pay a little more for a hunt they walk less than a half a mile......wack a nice animal...then have a truck drive up to it and winch it in the back......I know one RFW registered ranch that routinely get 10,000-12,000$ for that type of hunt. To each his own....just not my style of hunt.
 

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Well it sounds Wyoming and Colorado look good prospects. I have a friend heading over to Wyoming in I think September on a swap hunt for a 300+ bull trophy. Will be good to see how he gets on.
Say I wanted to buy a point in WY or CO for example, are there websites for this? Should I be registering anywhere? Can you buy points in multiple states in one year?
s8 Yes, you can buy points in all the states you can afford to in any given year. They all use a different system, and they all are confusing until you get used to them. Generally speaking though, if you apply for a tag, and do not draw, you can then chose to get a point, the cost of which is with-held from your refund. I only play the point game in Colorado and Wyoming, and they are totally different. You can put off buying points in WY until this fall, but you must get your application in to CO by April 5th in order to get a point for each species in 2016. CO has a "preference point only" option, but unfortunately, you have to front the cost of the tag (for each species), and after the draw in a couple months, you will get most of it refunded. To get started in CO, go to cpw.state.co.us then link on to "hunting" and get started. There will be phone numbers listed if you have questions. Most states also require a "hunters Safety" class if you are born after a certain date. I am 63 and need it in CO, but not in WY.
 

s8mdevo

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OK so I'm trying to buy point for Colorado now before April 5th. I am now on the final page which shows 4 hunt choices starting with the letter E. What should I be selecting if I am just trying to build points to hunt in a few years? Man I'm confused!
 

JimP

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The code that you put in for your first choice is E-P-999-99-P and leave the other blank.

That code is for a preference point only.

Then continue on to check out
 

Tim McCoy

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If all you want is an elk preference point, the code is E-P-999-99-P.

For preference points, the first letter, the species code, is all that changes. So deer would D-P..., antelope would be A-P...

Good luck!
 

RICMIC

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OK so I'm trying to buy point for Colorado now before April 5th. I am now on the final page which shows 4 hunt choices starting with the letter E. What should I be selecting if I am just trying to build points to hunt in a few years? Man I'm confused!
The E means that you are on the page for elk. You can put the preference point code as your 1st choice, and leave the other choices blank. The code for elk is E-P-999-99-P. You will be charged for the cost of the license, but all but the $40 point fee will be refunded after the draw in a couple months. If you apply for a deer point, the point code is D-P-999-99-P; that must be done separately from your elk point.
 

s8mdevo

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OK will do. I was also looking at the Wyoming website and after a while it gives you a menu of hunting areas to choose from, there were I think 130 different areas. How does somebody with no experience know where to choose? There would obviously be time needed to learn and scout the land before hunting, how does one know where he wants to hunt with no knowledge?
 

JimP

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To find areas to hunt you either need to do a lot of reading in hunting stories where they mention the unit or ask questions. Wyoming's elk hunting is really limited to the western half of the state and some of the good units are around Yellowstone and Grand Tetons National Parks.

Also if you haven't figured it out Wyoming Game and Fish allows you to purchase points from May-September I believe.
 

Tim McCoy

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If not hunting this season, buy a WY point. Opens up in July I think. Deer, elk and antelope are good values, so buy one in your species of interest. Eastman MRS is a great tool, need both magazines or just buy the entire years MRS after the draws to study it. There are tag services, like Cabelas, and more extensive services like Huntin'Fool, a number of others are out there too. I have used this site for general CO and WY info; http://diyhuntingmaps.com/p/wy-antelope-statewide-unit-map.html

When you have more info about what you want, come back and ask away. The more qualifying criteria you can give, including your approx. budget, weapon, game trophy potential, etc., the more info you are likely to get. For WY, you can't hunt wilderness unless you go guided or get a resident to take you, as I recall. Also search the forum, tons of info here already. Try to narrow it down to 5-6 main units and see what you learn. You have plenty of time, unless you are looking at 2016. Have fun planning your hunt.
 

JimP

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Your total should be $479

$466 for the tag even if you are just applying for a preference point.
$3 For the application fee
$10 for a habitat stamp just to enter the drawing process even if you are just applying for a preference point.

$479 total
 

JimP

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You'll get $426 back on your refund. In check form sent to your address on file.

You will be charged with no refund for:

$3 application fee
$40 preference point fee
$10 habitat stamp