Sources of Revenue for Wyoming Game and Fish

Colorado Cowboy

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Preference Points are a big driver here in Colorado too. All you have to do is look at the numbers and see why more and more states are doing the PP thing. The surprising thing is that the buyers (US) don't really have much clout with the various states that have the PP program. Here in Colorado the state recently required all big game license applicants to purchase a qualifying hunting or fishing license prior to submitting application.
 

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fars I am concerned what happens in wyomang stays in wyomang! same goes for all the other states.
Ideeho is the only place to be!
ain no other place gots anithang I need!

probly won't stay that way long though . dem udder places is so wunderful everbodies mo ;) :ROFLMAO:vin here!
 
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Bonecollector

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Unfortunately those from the east don’t have a choice but travel west and pay the price if you choose to hunt western big game.
 
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mallardsx2

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Any way you skin it western states with preference points are making a KILLING from preference point sales.
Furthermore, I have always thought that having to buy a small game license to purchase preference points is crooked nonsense. Any my favorite part is after they get done screwing you dry, then they ask you if you want to donate...lolol Meanwhile some residents bitch about the amount of non-resident tags allocated to non-residents but refuse accept the facts of a pie chart....

Its (almost) funny to me because GA preference points for 7 species are 100% free....even for Non-residents...meanwhile these other states are raking in millions of dollars from it....It wont be long before they start charging for them in GA as well. That I am certain about.

And here I am , waiting to be trolled/torched by by the Wyoming King himself.... "Oh but nobody wants to come to GA to shoot deer" "If you dont like it dont hunt here" blah blah blah....
 

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After some research a couple years ago I put the numbers to PP. I knew it was a large amount of dollars, but it seems to be their best money maker. That being know. I want to hunt there and as long as I can afford it I will pay. I am surprised that does not list application fees. I wonder where that revenue falls on the chart?
Heck if the tags were free we would likely never draw one.
 

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Wasn't it a couple of years ago that Wyoming's legislature passed a bill that was signed into law that they had to become self sufficient?

That money needs to come from somewhere and if it is the cost of points and or additional licenses that you need to purchase then so be it. If you don't like having to purchase a small game license to be able to put in for a draw then you really need to take a vacation out to the state that you are putting in for and do some fishing or small game hunting along with scouting out the area that you are putting in for.

The sad thing is that their operating money needs to come from somewhere and unfortunately hunters are the ones that are footing most of the bill for it.
 
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They’re not going to miss any opportunity to fleece anyone wanting to hunt/fish for money. I guess that they’re not making enough from “taxing” boaters with the Zebra Mussel fee. I’m darn near scaird to throw sticks out for my dog to retrieve, for fear that I’ll have to place the Zebra Mussel sticker on it! memtb
 

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After some research a couple years ago I put the numbers to PP. I knew it was a large amount of dollars, but it seems to be their best money maker. That being know. I want to hunt there and as long as I can afford it I will pay. I am surprised that does not list application fees. I wonder where that revenue falls on the chart?
Heck if the tags were free we would likely never draw one.
in the end that is all that matters . as long as there are those willing to pay the prices will increase.
don't really matter what we want or think, it's all about the benjamins.
personally ,if hunting another state was my only option ,I would find another thing to occupy my time. those not willing to do that will keep paying more an more an more an more.
if the rate were to triple there would still be those that pay it.

don't believe this is true????? just look how much folks will pay for a bull elk hunt.

for the right to say ,"I were pampered on a hunt, " folks will pay ten times what a beef would cost.
 

HuskyMusky

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I notice Non-residents flipping the bill....

essentially non--res generate 80%,
residents 20%

residents get 80% of the tags
non-res 20%

maybe one day WYoming will try to generate the most money it can and just sell as many non-res tags at full non-res price and whatever is left can be sold to residents? lol.

I'm being a bit facetious, but what's to stop them? aside form resident voters voting them out of office, but if money is money.... why not do that?
or just have 1 price, the non-res price for all....

essentially overnight WY could 10x their revenue... and that's real money!

I figure they can just keep raising non-res fees and richer and richer hunters will keep paying the fees...but at some point I think many will be priced out.
 
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“We all too often have socialism for the rich and rugged free market capitalism for the poor.”

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BuzzH

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Few things.

1. We live in a place where you aren't required to hunt as a NR in any state.

2. Each state has the right to manage its resources as they see fit. Meaning if they choose to, like in the case of North Dakota with moose, etc. they can keep 100% of the resource to themselves. This is the way its been for a long, long time and I agree 100% with it on the basis of constitutionality and the law, including Supreme court decisions.

3.If NR hunters don't like buying points, don't do it. Simple as that. Most all states have a random portion of the draw that you can participate in without purchasing points.

4. There is NO other state where NR's express an entitled attitude toward a States wildlife resources like that of Wyoming. NR's that hunt here have had it too good for too long, is the only reason that I can come up with for the entitled attitude. Let me be the first to say it, as a NR hunter you are NOT entitled to a single tag here. You hunt at the pleasure of what Residents are willing to give.

5. As a NR to the other 49 states that I hunt, you will never hear me complain about cost, points, or license availability. I'm a guest there and realize I hunt at the pleasure of the residents of those states. If I think that the price isn't worth the value, I just dont hunt there. What I dont do is complain and whine about how those states are "sticking it to me". Those states have the absolute right to charge what they want and allocate what they want to NR's, including giving residents no tags.

6. I don't view financially supporting a state with point fees, license fees, etc. as something that should be complained about. I care enough about wildlife that I have no problem cutting the checks, in fact, I feel pretty darn good about my money supporting what many supposedly care about. In the scheme of things, when I apply for, or hunt as a NR in 10-12 states a year, I feel the cost to manage wildlife sort of balances itself out. I may pay more to hunt MT, ID, NM, UT, IL, NV, AZ, AK, CO, OR, WA, etc. etc. But, I get a pretty big discount in the State I live in. I pay more of the freight in other states, NR's pay more of the freight here (speaking of license revenue only).

7. What isn't mentioned, past license fees, is the huge amount of NGO support and volunteer hours that Residents spend enhancing wildlife. Not many NR's are showing up to plant bitterbrush, pull fencing, lobby the legislature, attend meetings, and residents providing nearly 100% of the NGO funding that in turn, puts that money they raise on the ground in Wyoming. Volunteer hours for conservation are currently valued at $29/hour...

Finally, hunting as a NR is NOT a god-given right, its a luxury...just like its a luxury to own 2 homes, or fancy sports cars. If you want luxury items, you pay for them...I see no difference with hunting as a NR. Not everybody can afford a corvette stingray, and not everybody can afford to hunt as a NR. Thankfully, there are KIA's to drive and every hunter can hunt cheaply in the State they reside in.
 

BuzzH

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I notice Non-residents flipping the bill....

essentially non--res generate 80%,
residents 20%

residents get 80% of the tags
non-res 20%

maybe one day WYoming will try to generate the most money it can and just sell as many non-res tags at full non-res price and whatever is left can be sold to residents? lol.

I'm being a bit facetious, but what's to stop them? aside form resident voters voting them out of office, but if money is money.... why not do that?
or just have 1 price, the non-res price for all....

essentially overnight WY could 10x their revenue... and that's real money!

I figure they can just keep raising non-res fees and richer and richer hunters will keep paying the fees...but at some point I think many will be priced out.
Then you wont have a problem with paying $400 a year to hunt deer in IL?

Because that's what I paid to hunt there, and didn't complain at all.

As to the rest of your post, you're right, facetious at best.
 
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Yell Co AR Hunter

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For the most part I agree with you. Where we differ is on federal lands. Wyoming has a lot of it same as my state Arkansas. So every US hunter should be able to hunt these lands. Yes they need to be managed, but not exclude Nonresidents. Wyoming does this by restricting Wilderness areas. New Mexico does this by tag allocation. I would like to see tag allocation related to amount of federal land a state has to hunt. Sure charge NR more. I am ok with that. You would think the PP game has run its course on a lot of game, but like old PT Barnum said.