Preference Point Systems- have we gone too far?

88man

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My comments are not in regards to fairness. I just believe that we should honor hunting as an american right and that it shouldn't be discriminated against where you live as a privelidge. I don't mind and understand the higher tag fees for non residents. It just seems non american to me to not have the right to hunt in various parts of the country.
 

88man

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Tim , I agree with your comment 100%. It just sounds un american to not allow out of state hunters or to refer to their
hunting rights as a priviledge. I understand the law and agree. It just sounds scary. We need every hunters vote.
 

WY ME

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Feb 4, 2014
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This sounds almost the same as Wyoming's system with the only substantial difference being that you propose 50% of the tags go to a random pool versus the 25% that Wyoming has settled on. While it helps the first timers it penalizes those that buy points for 20+ years by guaranteeing their date for a tag will be substantially delayed. Some will be happy...some won't.

The best answer is to put more sheep, moose, elk, etc. on the mountain and everyone's draw odds will increase. Packs of wolves gnawing on a our moose herds negatively impact our odds of drawing a moose tag more than anything else.
 

WY ME

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My comments are not in regards to fairness. I just believe that we should honor hunting as an american right and that it shouldn't be discriminated against where you live as a privelidge. I don't mind and understand the higher tag fees for non residents. It just seems non american to me to not have the right to hunt in various parts of the country.
Although we refer to hunting as our right, unfortunately it isn't a right and so therefore I wrote my last post in regards to what is fair. As a nonresident I clearly don't have the right to hunt sheep in Nebraska.. but is that fair when we (WY) allow Nebraskans, Michiganders, etc. to hunt all of our game? Why is Wyoming so generous when even neighboring states put their thumb in our face?
 

RICMIC

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Although we refer to hunting as our right, unfortunately it isn't a right and so therefore I wrote my last post in regards to what is fair. As a nonresident I clearly don't have the right to hunt sheep in Nebraska.. but is that fair when we (WY) allow Nebraskans, Michiganders, etc. to hunt all of our game? Why is Wyoming so generous when even neighboring states put their thumb in our face?
Part of that is just the numbers of residents. Colorado has substantially more residents than Wyoming. So, more locals competing (and paying) for tags results in fewer NR tags. In Arizona, New Mexico, and Nevada, there just isn't the habitat to support the larger numbers of game that CO and WY have.
 

NE69

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In Nebraska we have one sheep tag about every other year we can apply for. Any where from 1300 to 3000 apps for one tag. I being a resident don't have the right to hunt sheep here, just the right to apply for the tag with some tough odds. Also one tag is auctioned off, 2015 went for $130k. Nonresidents have the right to join the auction, same as me. Life isn't fair. We are pretty generous with our pheasants and deer though. Think it is $6 for a NR youth deer tag.
 

WY ME

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RIC

I understand what you're saying about Wyoming being able to raise more elk or whatever than a desert state. But even 25 years ago when we only had 1 Mtn. Goat area in the state with 6 tags in total, Wyoming generously designated a couple of them for nonresidents. In some years we have areas with only 1 sheep tag and it is only available to a nonresident. There is no state that is more generous to nonresidents than WY. I'm not saying S. Dakota give 1/2 of their elk tags to nonresidents but it would be nice if they would share some of their elk or sheep like other states have done for their S. Dakota residents.