Muzzleloader recommendations?
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BKC
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BKC
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Old Hunter
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I thought I explained that I wouldn't put a scope on a sidelock, BUT I need a scope now. I never planned to shoot a scoped ML in ML season. As it turned out. I haven't, or i'd be hunting right now.
If I could. I'd still hunt with a Hawken, black powder, and a round ball. That's what side i'm on. Instead i'll be hunting the rifle season with a ML. I've never taken the easy way to hunt, and i'm not doing it now.
What's your problem anyway? How do you hunt, and what gun do you use? I'm betting it's an advantage over me.
If I could. I'd still hunt with a Hawken, black powder, and a round ball. That's what side i'm on. Instead i'll be hunting the rifle season with a ML. I've never taken the easy way to hunt, and i'm not doing it now.
What's your problem anyway? How do you hunt, and what gun do you use? I'm betting it's an advantage over me.
BKC
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I'm sure what gun I use is not what you would choose, I'm sure that my style of hunting is not how you would hunt, i'm sure that I shoot way too far for you, and I'm sure that when I get old I'll probably go about it the wrong way. Have a good day Pete!
BKC
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As it turned out, this was my only hunt of the year, as I turned in my elk tag. I turned 52 yesterday and spent the day with my son sneaking thru the corn fields. I found this buck, taking a little nap. 50 yards with t/c thunderhawk, 295 grain powerbelts. The perfect gun for this type of hunting. Had a great time with my son. Happy birthday to me!
CrimsonArrow
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sjsmallfield
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No joke! That thing is a stud for sure!!I don't know where you're hunting, but will you be my dad?
BKC
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Colorado Cowboy
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After reading all the posts, I guess I weigh in about my ML preferences. I'm not a purist, I hunt ML because here in Colorado it's about the only way you can hunt public land during the rut with a firearm. I have an inline TC Black Diamond that I bought in a pawn shop for $100. Shoots well enough, but sure not a tack driver and a little cumbersome loading the primer. I also found out this last season it really doesn't do well in the rain. Too many parts exposed that rust a little and then get sticky real quick. Had to take it completely apart a couple of times in the field to get the bolt to trip when the trigger was pulled. Probably going to get me an Encore if I keep ML hunting.
I really couldn't care less if you use a traditional or an inline, both are front stuffers and use black powder (or BP substitutes). IMHO sights should not be optical ( except in cases like Old Hunter) and I don't like sabots and pellatized powder. I suppose if I lived in a state where these were legal and I used them, I would favor all of them, don't know as I havn't had that experience....yet! I am looking into a New Mexico ML hunt where all are legal. So we will see............
I really couldn't care less if you use a traditional or an inline, both are front stuffers and use black powder (or BP substitutes). IMHO sights should not be optical ( except in cases like Old Hunter) and I don't like sabots and pellatized powder. I suppose if I lived in a state where these were legal and I used them, I would favor all of them, don't know as I havn't had that experience....yet! I am looking into a New Mexico ML hunt where all are legal. So we will see............
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Colorado Cowboy
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Finally made up my mind and am going to get a new ML. My choices are down to 2....TC Encore Pro Hunter or Pro hunter FX or a CVA Accura. I will need to actually see, hold, caress these before I make my choice. I'll be heading to the Grand Junction Cabelas and will really get to feel them. i'll also be researching a new sleeping bag. I reread all the posts and everyone really had good suggestions/ideas.
Old Hunter
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I've gone back to a traditional sidelock in .54 cal. I'll shoot a round ball (PRB) for mule deer, and a 425gr lead conical for elk.
Colorado Cowboy
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While doing some more research today i ran across a thread on a websitediscussing the CVA Accura with the Beraga barrel. Seems there have been several problems with these barrels rupturing. Anyone have any info about this?
Matthew
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Old Hunter
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Bergara barrels have not been blowing up. Some of the older CVA guns before Bergara barrels had a problem, and they were recalled.
Some guys are on the warpath to make CVA look bad, because they're getting paid to do it, and are sponsored by other companies. Randy Wakeman being one of them. Rumors spread fast. Even if they aren't true.
Muzzleloaders are different from CF guns. Everybody who owns one is a reloader, but have no clue how to do it. Too heavy of a charge, barrel restrictions, double loads, and the worse one of all. Using smokeless powder is the cause of these accidents.
Some guys are on the warpath to make CVA look bad, because they're getting paid to do it, and are sponsored by other companies. Randy Wakeman being one of them. Rumors spread fast. Even if they aren't true.
Muzzleloaders are different from CF guns. Everybody who owns one is a reloader, but have no clue how to do it. Too heavy of a charge, barrel restrictions, double loads, and the worse one of all. Using smokeless powder is the cause of these accidents.
BKC
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I would stay away from a CVA, even though I own an older CVA .54 cal. If I was to buy a new one I would buy a T/C. Yes the CVA had some problems but not all problems were operator error. If operator error were consistant across the board, then you would have a hell of a lot more failures with T/C, since there are more T/C'S out there than CVA's. Yhis is not the case however. The problem is in Spain where most of CVA's barrels are made.
Maineboy
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Old hunter gave me sound advice on getting my cva dialed in and it is shooting well. less than a one inch group at 100 yrds with a peep sight. while being complaint to colorado black powder regs. I did my home work and the barrel problem is not with the Bergara as old hunter stated above. I had a pro deal with TC at the time and I opted for the cva because many have done well with conicals with them and I never was able to get my TC omega to shoot conicals at all. The cva you can set the spacing on the firing pin nut to stop blow back around the primer, resulting in cleaner gun and better accuracy.
Umpqua Hunter
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CVA Accura's are EXCELLENT rifles they are:
Very Accurate
Have one of the best triggers I have shot on a factory rifle
Easy to maintain.
It's a real shame to bad mouth them at all. Ed Shilen, one of the best barrel manufacturers in the world was the technical consultant to Bergara. Here is the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-YEA0DRaas
Very Accurate
Have one of the best triggers I have shot on a factory rifle
Easy to maintain.
It's a real shame to bad mouth them at all. Ed Shilen, one of the best barrel manufacturers in the world was the technical consultant to Bergara. Here is the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-YEA0DRaas