Muzzleloader pleads not guilty in fatal shooting of bow hunter

[lukew]

Do you agree with the ruling? SLAP ON THE RIST...

https://www.durangoherald.com/articles/muzzleloader-pleads-not-guilty-in-fatal-shooting-of-bow-hunter-in-dolores-county/?fbclid=IwAR0lh4DRLIPyzrgdtYTdHHWihCNPEirHL3WW-kOEfVlXwI_TcuskjmsjmDY

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

It is not a crime to be stupid, and he surely is.

In the last few weeks at a Colorado Parks & Wildlife Commission meeting, it was voted down to make any change in the current hunting rules concerning muzzle loading wearing orange during their season. There was also no change requiring archery hunters to wear orange during M/L season when both archery and M/L hunters are in the field at the same time. There was also discussion about closing archery season during M/L season, but no action taken here too.

Stupid is as stupid does as far as CPW goes!

 

[JimP]

I'm wondering what he is expecting the outcome to be by pleading not guilty?

I also wonder why he took a shot when he just saw a patch of white when unit 71 has a 4 pt antler restriction for all seasons, so he did need to see at least one antler to confirm that the elk that he was shooting at was legal.

I think that he may end up in a world of hurt when the trial is over.

Lukew, where do you see the slap on the wrist?

As for the CP&W, I see no reason not to require archery hunters to at least wear camouflage orange while hunting during the overlap. But even with wearing a florescent orange vest I have been able to get withing archery distance of both elk and deer and for me that is under 40 yards.

I can understand not changing the seasons around a little because of the season structure that the CP&W has in place, but they had better look at it real hard before they come up with the new recommendations in a couple of years.

 

[Colorado T]

Yeah I don't see where a ruling was handed down or a slap on the wrist. Looks like it wont be decided for a few months. Again as Jim said, he did not identify his target before pulling the trigger.

 

[mallardsx2]

I think lukeW was referring to what the guy is being charged with...

"Morosko has been charged with manslaughter, a Class 4 felony, and hunting in a careless manner, a misdemeanor, by 22nd District Attorney Matt Margeson. Deputy DA Jeremy Reed is prosecuting the case.

A conviction of a Class 4 felony carries a sentence of two to six years in the Colorado Department of Corrections, Margeson said."

I'm not going to say what I think needs to have happen to the shooter on a public forum because I dont want people to think I'm any more of a savage than what they already do...But, it would be more than 2-6 years in jail with a likely release early due to jail crowding....

 

[Bonecollector]

It’s standard practice to plead not guilty. That way he has room to plea bargain on a lesser charge and possibly avoid jail time altogether.

 

[Muley bound]

I think lukeW was referring to what the guy is being charged with...

"Morosko has been charged with manslaughter, a Class 4 felony, and hunting in a careless manner, a misdemeanor, by 22nd District Attorney Matt Margeson. Deputy DA Jeremy Reed is prosecuting the case.

A conviction of a Class 4 felony carries a sentence of two to six years in the Colorado Department of Corrections, Margeson said."

I'm not going to say what I think needs to have happen to the shooter on a public forum because I dont want people to think I'm any more of a savage than what they already do...But, it would be more than 2-6 years in jail with a likely release early due to jail crowding....

That’s a great response!! We all feel what the actual consequence should be, but I’m sure there are some softies that take it the snowflake way. Yes, accidents happen, but in this case as in many others....completely avoidable. If you do the crime...you pay the time. That guys poor family has to live the rest of their lives with what happened!

 

[buckbull]

It’s standard practice to plead not guilty. That way he has room to plea bargain on a lesser charge and possibly avoid jail time altogether.

It most certainly will end up with a plea deal. Evidence is quite clear on what happened; both sides just have to decide on what the punishment will be. Most defense attorneys don't like to go to trial; many in fact never do during their career. The ones that don't mind are at the top of their game and normally charge top dollar for their services.

 

[87TT]

Unless he dropped the gun and it discharged in a random direction, it was NO accident. Anything less than a felony with state prison time should be off the table. The DA need to grow a set and refuse any deal.

 

[dirtclod Az.]

Hang em' high!

 

[CrimsonArrow]

I’m a little torn over this. Yeah, he’s an idiot and made a stupid, fatal mistake. Completely negligent with zero excuse. But it was an accident. He had no ill will towards the other hunter. Obviously he needs to be held accountable, but I don’t think his life should be ruined over this. He should never be allowed to hunt again anywhere, but beyond that I don’t know what the correct punishment is. Tragic for everyone involved

 

[87TT]

I’m a little torn over this. Yeah, he’s an idiot and made a stupid, fatal mistake. Completely negligent with zero excuse. But it was an accident. He had no ill will towards the other hunter. Obviously he needs to be held accountable, but I don’t think his life should be ruined over this. He should never be allowed to hunt again anywhere, but beyond that I don’t know what the correct punishment is. Tragic for everyone involved

So if a repeat drunk driver kills someone, it's OK? Same thing. He knew that his gun could kill. That's the point of hunting. He has to be punished so he doesn't and others don't repeat this type pf thing.

 

[CrimsonArrow]

So if a repeat drunk driver kills someone, it's OK? Same thing. He knew that his gun could kill. That's the point of hunting. He has to be punished so he doesn't and others don't repeat this type pf thing.

I agree he needs to be punished, or otherwise held accountable. I said as much. I am absolutely not defending this guy or his actions, but let’s not pretend that by crucifying him it will somehow deter others from making a mistake in the heat of the moment

 

[JimP]

One nice thing is that when he is convicted and banned from hunting in Colorado he will also be banned from hunting in 45 other states including Pennsylvania.

If you are wondering what states are not included in the IWVC they are Massachusetts, Road Island, Nebraska, and Delaware but these 4 states are working on joining. The single state that is not in the process of joining or otherwise is Hawaii. This is as of 2017

 

[kidoggy]

One nice thing is that when he is convicted and banned from hunting in Colorado he will also be banned from hunting in 45 other states including Pennsylvania.

If you are wondering what states are not included in the IWVC they are Massachusetts, Road Island, Nebraska, and Delaware but these 4 states are working on joining. The single state that is not in the process of joining or otherwise is Hawaii. This is as of 2017

we should ask biden what the other five states are.

actions have consequence, plain and simple. stupid is not an excuse .

it is my belief that harsh penalties are required in this situation. jail time , hunting privileges revoked for all time , confiscation of his weapons ,vehicle , heavy fines and a beating from the deceased loved ones IF they so desire.
it is possible I could forgive him. even if this was my own loved one who was killed . but to forgive is not to excuse.

 

[87TT]

I agree he needs to be punished, or otherwise held accountable. I said as much. I am absolutely not defending this guy or his actions, but let’s not pretend that by crucifying him it will somehow deter others from making a mistake in the heat of the moment

If him going to prison prevents even one life from being lost or destroyed, then yeah I'm for it. The punishment should fit the crime. He took a life for God's sake.

 

[swampokie]

I just don’t see it being an assault on archers rights to require an article of blaze orange to be worn. I never archery hunt Colorado without an orange cap. I never hunt née Mexico without an orange cap. Pretty sure the damn cap hasn’t cost me an opportunity at a critter. I will never understand this. I was checked 6 different times by Colorado wardens during the muzz season last year. About half the wardens were rude and accusatory when there was no reason to be. The day we left we had an overzealous warden almost write my partner a ticket for wanton waste when he only produced 70 lb of meat off a 150 lb bear and threatened another ticket fir
TWO end pieces off a loaf of wheat bread. Said it was a bear magnet and we were owners of a sloppy bear smorgasbord of a camp. He didn’t seem to have a problem though ignoring my calls and messages that were left for him with a couple simple questions when pre season preparation was on the agenda. He also seemed to be indifferent on the subject of losing an outa stater or two when it could possibly be prevented by a blaze requirement of some kind. I took particular exception to his un professionalism and accusing one of the most honest and ethical hunting partners ive
Ever had of wanton waste. I do the same thing for a living and no matter how many Texans call me and ask where they can find a 160” buck or a honey hole of green heads I treat them with respect until disrespected. As far as an orange requirement why the hell not?? If it could possibly prevent this one life from being lost. For gods sake I couldn’t even take piss in a one holer dump can without a mask in the state when I was there. I just don’t get the stubborn steadfastness of the commission and the archers of the beautiful yet politically challenged state of Colorado.

 

[Shane13]

Based on the information available, he's certainly guilty of manslaughter in my opinion. Completely negligent and violated several common sense safety rules. Pleading not guilty doesn't change that.

 

[Bonecollector]

Based on the information available, he's certainly guilty of manslaughter in my opinion. Completely negligent and violated several common sense safety rules. Pleading not guilty doesn't change that.

Agreed. However his legal counsel is setting up for his defense which is a plea bargain. Anyone and everyone would defend themselves in the same fashion. It will be interesting to see what the state is willing to accept. I agree the punishment should fit the crime

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

Agreed. However his legal counsel is setting up for his defense which is a plea bargain. Anyone and everyone would defend themselves in the same fashion. It will be interesting to see what the state is willing to accept. I agree the punishment should fit the crime

His trial is in County Court.....my County. The District Attorney is famous for plea bargains. We shall see...................