chuckle..... in the words of mista T, I pity the fool... that gets those tags.I saw they still have that tag listed for 2020. Is that in an effort to mop up anything remaining after the helicopter killings? I would think that Area 4 would be void of goats after they get done with the flights. Possibly some coming up from 2?
From my talks with the main biologists when i checked my goat in, most the goats inside the park, never leave the park. The stay there all winter in deep snow etc. So the ones getting shot in the main areas inside the park are most likely ones that would never set foot into the hunting area anyway. There was a small population known to live right on the park border that goes back and forth, and that is what WYGF was targeting. And yes, I believe the tag next year will be very tough, and most likely nanny and kids might be the only ones found if any. I could be wrong, but im sure I would not come close to a mature billy like this year, so I am not interested in it at all.I saw they still have that tag listed for 2020. Is that in an effort to mop up anything remaining after the helicopter killings? I would think that Area 4 would be void of goats after they get done with the flights. Possibly some coming up from 2?
Glad someone has facts to share.They are trying to allow hunters to be part of this, but couldn't get any legislation passed for this year for that to happen. The game and fish has pushed hard for the national park to allow hunters to be in this. But it's not their world so they get no official say. Wygf gave away 48 new mountain goat permits this season on the outskirts of this entire area. I had one and took a 7 1/2 year old Billy with my bow on day 3 of season. The season was 3 1/2 months long, and my archery goat was the oldest and largest goat checked in. It was not an easy hunt, and i don't plan on putting in for the tag again next year though i could. There has never been hunting inside Yellowstone, but yes there is an elk reduction program inside Grand teton national park, but as is government, for anything new to occur paperwork must pass through 100 different people
There is still an Elk hunt every year in Grand Teton national park and there has been for decades. Elk is OK but not Goats? WTH. This is a stupid program by G&F and the NPS. I'll bet they didn't get any resident hunter support. They could have made thousands of dollars in license sales instead of costing tens or hundreds of thousands.Hunting was allowed in National parks at one point in time. I believe both Yellowstone and rocky mountain national parks had hunts in the past
A guy I work with worked for around 20 years in Yellowstone until the mid 90's. He said one idea that was talked about a lot after the fire in 1988 was that when they were dipping water out of Yellowstone, Lewis, and Shoshone lake with choppers that they could have inadvertantly transplanted some.Goat issue aside...which I agree with the GF Commission about.
WYME is not being truthful at all in regard to the lake trout situation. A clear case of bar-stool propaganda and ax grinding.
It is a fact that the Government did plant lake trout in 1890 in Lewis and Shoshone Lake, but did not plant them in Yellowstone lake. Lake trout were never documented in Yellowstone lake until 1994 and DNA and ear bone chemical analysis proved that the trout were illegally introduced via Lewis Lake, probably in the mid-late 1980's.
Its also not true that lake trout are native in "nearby lakes"...the closest lake where they are native is probably in the Bighole Valley area of Montana, twin lakes specifically. Otherwise the nearest places in Montana where they are native is extreme NW Montana, Waterton, Glenns, St. Mary's, and Cosley lake. Not one lake or body of water has native lake trout in the State of Wyoming.
But carry on with the faux outrage...
I've heard the same theory, possible but very remote chance as a best case. Not sure why you would drop one bucket of water from one lake to another. The buckets also open from the bottom, making it really unlikely that fish would remain after a bucket drop.A guy I work with worked for around 20 years in Yellowstone until the mid 90's. He said one idea that was talked about a lot after the fire in 1988 was that when they were dipping water out of Yellowstone, Lewis, and Shoshone lake with choppers that they could have inadvertantly transplanted some.
Interesting thought if anything.