Hunting Public?

Nebraska Outlander

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Just got back from my annual hunting trip in Western Nebraska and rather than getting into specifics of where you hunt, I have questions for those who hunt public. In Nebraska allot of the ground is hunted pretty hard and even though it is I still feel there can be a decent to bigger deer taken on public in Nebraska. What are some tactics you use while hunting on public that you find to work well. Like running trail cameras, scouting, or any other tactic that helps on public. The guy I hunt with prefers to drive around looking for deer then going after them. I feel there is too much ground to look at and you won't see every deer from the road. I know to look for food sources and water but what if the public is fairly far from those things? What things would you look for if those items tend to be a little farther away.
 

Tim McCoy

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Here are a few things that have helped me for MD in very similar country on late season hunts. It appears you can hunt a late season. I have had good luck in past seasons in SD on rutting MD well into Dec. WT too. If you are seeing MD rutting behavior, find does, check them often for a good buck. Even if you think there is no rut, check anyway, even mid day. That tactic has proven sucessful for me often. Late into the rut, well past the peak, there are usually bucks looking and a few does to find. Especially true in a hard hunted area with potentially low buck to doe ratios.

Again, basing this off your just got back remark, meaning late season, if you know the area, get to those glassing spots and scan for deer. Find out what the preferred browse is in your area, the girls and many boys will be food focused by early Dec. Plenty of food away from human activity.

Lastly, in my experience, in fairly open country, it is less about how far off the road you are, than how undisturbed a pocket of cover is. Driving roads, absent knowledge of the lay of the land, is a waste of time and gas. Your buddy probably drives past plenty of deer unseen from the road but close by. If your chosen area holds deer, learn it and stick with it, find the areas most overlook. Just a few ideas, hope it helps.
 

Hilltop

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Agree with Tim on all points. Your biggest tool should be a great pair of binoculars second only to a spotting scope. Mature mule deer aren't looking for the spot furthest from the road, they are looking for areas where they are not disturbed. Sometimes those areas are within a few hundred yards of a road.
 

Musket Man

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Sometimes in areas that get alot of pressure the best thing you can do is to find a good spot and just stay there and let other hunters push deer to you.
 

Nebraska Outlander

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Thanks musket man for the great advice. My only problem with that is the public gets hunted hard during rifle season in November and I hunt the muzzleloader season. From what I've seen in pretty much the only one hunting in that area.

So when the deer bunch up in late season do you still feel you can find big deer on the public or does it make things more difficult to find when the public is farther from food sources?
 

tdcour

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I am not much of a person that likes to drive around and hunt or a person that likes to sit around and wait for things to happen, but there is a time and place for everything. Your best bet is to A: get where the other hunters won't go or can't go. B: Hunt places that don't look as good to other hunters. I shot my biggest WT on public on a little 40 acre piece of public that had no trees, a cut wheat field, and the grass was bailed. He was actually bedded in a corner where the grass hadn't been cut, but it was only 8-10 inches high anyway. Most guys drove up where they could see part of the field and turned around or flat out didn't check it because of how it looked on Google Earth or whatever. When I'm hunting, I hunt every piece I can find.

Tim and Hilltop have great advice as well, so I won't add anything there. When we hunted in SD, muzzy is after rifle. The deer are skittish and scattered, but there were still deer on public. Again, find the place that didn't get pounded during rifle and there will be more deer there.
 

amoor983

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I hunt only public land, and have seen many respectable (even awesome) deer coming from public land this season (mostly walk in areas). Start by remote scouting with google earth. You can easily see things like topography, crops, forested vs. open areas, water sources. But you can also look at things like color and texture to sort out properties that have a diverse herbaceous plant community, and thus better habitat ( especially for mule deer). Then field truth if possible. Drive out there and look at it. Even hunt it during archery, dove or grouse season to get a feel for the habitat and early season scouting. Is it grazed down or lightly grazed? Are there thick coverts like cedar, tall grasses and weeds, or shrub thickets where deer can hide during heavy pressure? Are there food sources close by? Are the water holes wet or dry? How accessible is the property to other hunters? Are there trails, rubs, scat? Hunt it early. Go during archery season if possible; there is very little pressure and many more bucks. Or hunt it late during muzzleloader. The best public spots won’t be secrets. If you are rifle hunting, get there early and stake out your spot. Leave your agenda/map on your dash so others can see it. Hunters are responsible for policing themselves, and there will be multiple parties hunting a property on rifle opener, despite the size. Then go further than others are willing, and stay longer. You would be amazed how many people just drive by, or get out and walk a hundred yards, then leave (and some even shoot deer this way!). And, go back. If there is good habitat on a property, that is where deer want to be. When pressure resides, they will come back. Sometimes immediately. If you can park/access/hunt the property in a different way than most hunters, this may also help.
With deer yarding up for the winter, this will make it more difficult to find deer on public land. This year, however, has several advantages. Mild weather and no snow means deer are in smaller groups and more spread out. Most food sources are still available which allows them to be mobile. Also, there will be a late spike in the rut, and bigger bucks will want to be on their own with does or cruising for does. Also, most deer feel secure since rifle season is over, and move more actively during daylight. If you find some, you know big bucks won’t be too far away.
"The sweetest hunts are stolen. To steal a hunt, either go far into the wilderness where no one has ever been, or else find some undiscovered place under everybody’s nose."
-Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac
 

Nebraska Outlander

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Thanks for the reply, you bring up another question, the guy I hunt with says going in an hour before day light is a waste of time because you'll be pushing deer out because you can't see them. I don't feel this way and would love to go in an hour before daylight so when other hunters come in they can push the deer towards me. Guess this could be a double edge sword?
 

rcfireninja

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One of my favorite things is to camp out the night before right where I'm glassing. I can spot a buck, know the general area, be there at first light with my glass to find them, then plan a stalk. Even during last season in South Dakota this works.


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PlainsHunter

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I've hunted public land in Nebraska in the past and can say that yes - I'd get out early before sunrise and get set up where you can see, or possibly take advantage of someone coming in later and pushing deer to you. Try to walk to the area you want to hunt while making the least amount noise. Hunting deer on public land in Nebraska is a challenge no matter what part of the state you hunt because it all gets hit hard.
 

Musket Man

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I think older bucks will stay where no one is bothering them as long as they can. They didnt live through a heavily hunted rifle season by being stupid. I believe you are hunting post rut and they do need good feed then to recover from the rut so they survive the winter.
 

Tim McCoy

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Thanks for the reply, you bring up another question, the guy I hunt with says going in an hour before day light is a waste of time because you'll be pushing deer out because you can't see them. I don't feel this way and would love to go in an hour before daylight so when other hunters come in they can push the deer towards me. Guess this could be a double edge sword?
The best answer may depend on a few variables. Mostly time of year and stage of the rut where you are. If there is still rutting going on, and into early Dec there often is, bucks move quite a bit, looking for does and tending does. That may suggest a daylight start so you don't walk past a buck tending a doe in the dark. Does will still be on feed at daylight, but a buck will often peal a hot doe off the doe herd and rut her 1x1 near by. You see just two adult mulies in the rut, good chance one is a buck.

If the rut has ended and deer are all about groceries and you have a spot or two picked out, I'd be very early. Sitting well before before daylight where I could glass the feed source. That could be 15 min to a couple hours before daylight, just depends how far you need to go. So for me the start time is all about the conditions and deers location. No pat answer in my experience, but I'd rather be early than too late.
 

Arrowslinger

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Thanks for the reply, you bring up another question, the guy I hunt with says going in an hour before day light is a waste of time because you'll be pushing deer out because you can't see them. I don't feel this way and would love to go in an hour before daylight so when other hunters come in they can push the deer towards me. Guess this could be a double edge sword?
I'd consider finding a new hunting partner.
 

NE69

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All good advice above. Get out of the truck and check all of the little pockets you can't see from the road. I watch hunters drive by deer constantly because they don't get out of the truck. On public I would be in position before light. On private I do wait at times till it's light out and glass as I go in. Every situation is different so you must adjust to what works. Glass constantly from every angle you can. Also in Nebraska, bow season will up your odds and cut down on pressure. If you can develop some connections and get on private I would do so. It's very tough to get on private during rifle season but with a bow and early or late season you have a better chance to get permission.
 

crzy_cntryby

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Sometimes in areas that get alot of pressure the best thing you can do is to find a good spot and just stay there and let other hunters push deer to you.
Used to drop in up river from everyone's favorite hunting spot. Could always take your pick.
 

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"The sweetest hunts are stolen. To steal a hunt, either go far into the wilderness where no one has ever been, or else find some undiscovered place under everybody’s nose."
-Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac


This is possibly the best statement ever made....I've been using this for years...