JJ that would make sense if that was the bull he was about the same size and from the direction that we had last blood from, he also came off the highest point in the general area, after we bumped him he ran a 1/2 mile till he disappeared over the hill from there there are no trees for another 3/4 of a mile in the direction that he was headed, thinking that was him I need to go c that rancher and talk to him c if I can look for him there, again there are no huge woods in that direction for a bit