At the rate folks are donating this go fund me account will have the money before the spinless dopes in congress will
https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall
https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall
Well my stupid ass donated in $100 how about you kidI believe the wall is a silly promise made to appease stupid people , however ,I hope trump has the spine to keep the government shut down, no matter how long it takes.
I am not opposed to the wall being built. I just understand that a wall alone ,without the will of our leaders behind it, is useless!
and we all know that anytime a dem gains power the gates will be thrown wide open and the troops ordered to look the other way.
also to be fair and balanced , REPUBLICANS hire illegal invaders too!!
nope . I don't want the wall. I want the will.Well my stupid ass donated in $100 how about you kid
truth is ,if it does get built , mexico WILL pay for it each and every day. but ONLY if we as a nation have the will to do what it takes to man the wall and prevent illegal invaders from scaling or tunneling under it. which we don't and most likely won't!Mexico is paying for it. Didn't you hear?
Have you spent any time along the border? I was very surprised with the patrols when I was on the AZ/Mexico border hunting deer last year. There was a BP truck driving past any main road every 15-20 minutes. They were also set up glassing during the day, same as the deer hunters, and at night they were up high with I assume some sort of thermal imaging equipment. Large drones flew over regularly. A wall will certainly be breached, but with all the tech and manpower I saw down there, it seems like it would be a lot more effective if directed right at the most difficult barrier to entry.truth is ,if it does get built , mexico WILL pay for it each and every day. but ONLY if we as a nation have the will to do what it takes to man the wall and prevent illegal invaders from scaling or tunneling under it. which we don't and most likely won't!
gotta say, if you don' t like the topic, don't read the threads!Gotta say, I wish this thread was on some other forum. I come here to get away from the daily politics, other than wildlife related stuff. And yep, I know I don't have to read this one.
no I have not, but I am aware what is taking place down there.Have you spent any time along the border? I was very surprised with the patrols when I was on the AZ/Mexico border hunting deer last year. There was a BP truck driving past any main road every 15-20 minutes. They were also set up glassing during the day, same as the deer hunters, and at night they were up high with I assume some sort of thermal imaging equipment. Large drones flew over regularly. A wall will certainly be breached, but with all the tech and manpower I saw down there, it seems like it would be a lot more effective if directed right at the most difficult barrier to entry.
I do agree that the wall won't be effective at all if the govt just opens the gates, which is entirely possible depending on which party is in power.
it need not.I deleted my post, I can see that this is going to get out of hand.
if that's the case nothing will ever be done because most of the citizens in this nation will never visit the border.I have to say that the two hunting seasons that I spent 15 miles off of the border were quite interesting. I was in a area where I doubt that the "wall" will be built, way too mountainous. But during those two hunts we saw one coyote guide running down a wash and one drug runner flying a ultra-lite north. We called in the ultra-lite and withing 5 minutes there was a border patrol helicopter flying overhead. But I am sure that the ultra-lite was already back into Mexico.
We did find several hides that consisted of trash that was left behind. Water bottles, clothes, cell phone, candy and food wrappers were thrown about. The water bottles were gallon sized Clorox bottle type bottles that were black, easier to conceal than a white bottle. We also found orange peels where there are no orange trees with smooth boot tracks where they had worn carpet wrapped around their shoes to leave less of a track.
In 2016 the border patrol was there but not in much force. We did see a helicopter flying along the border one night and we figured that he was after a group since he was in the same area for quite a while. That along with a cross where one did not make it out of the desert. What was interesting were the water stations that a group had put up. They had a blue light on top of a pole that was flashing to let them know where the water station was located at. They figure that clean water is better than letting the border crosser just drink out of rotten cattle ponds or horse troughs.
As for what kind of security would work in the area that I was at I think that electronic surveillance would work a lot better than just a wall. That along with stripping a piece of land bare to where nothing could cross it without being detected and the border patrol being able to sweep down on them fairly quickly.
In the long run a person needs to spend some time down there to actually see what is going on before even thinking of trying to make a decision on it.
I hope so also. just for different reasons.Boy tough crowd today
As kid said there is not the will but the wall is a start of the will and when built the and it will slow down the open border party
I have lived in so cal my life and know first hand how devastating the unchecked flow of illegal aliens can be
walls work and i hope every buildable mile is built
yes i get what your sayingGotta say, I wish this thread was on some other forum. I come here to get away from the daily politics, other than wildlife related stuff. And yep, I know I don't have to read this one.