Deep 6

tdcour

tdcour

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What does everyone think of the new deep six setups? Arrow, inserts, broadheads, etc. I'm looking at getting into some new arrows towards the end of the season to shoot for next year and wanted to get more information on them. I understand they will have less wind drift and typically more penetration, but I just question the durability of some of these arrows, inserts, and broadheads. These are some expensive setups by the time you get everything on them and I really don't want to be snapping arrows because of the slim shaft.

Does anyone have any experience with these? I'm looking forward to see how they fly at further distances and penetrate with elk and larger game.
 
Hycntryhtr

Hycntryhtr

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The penetration of the deep six is a joke.. I haven't seen one do a complete pass through yet.. My buddy shot his deer at 27 yds only got 6" of pen, shot a bull at 32 yds and the arrow went in 3" and fell out, didn't hit bone on any of them.. Not worth the money, I bought a dz and a half of them


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I went with the Victory VAP 1 arrows, and target shooting I noticed a difference in penetration. I opted to go with Victory arrows because they have an insert that allows for using your same broad heads. They call them Penetrator Broad head adapter. I went with the stainless steel ones which gives more FOC. Like I said, I noticed penetration difference when shooting into a target between these and my old arrows, but before these I bought some pretty cheap arrows and that can be some of the difference.

I think a pass through shot on an animal has a lot of factors that can affect it. The broad heads and bone contact. To come to the conclusion that the new arrows are junk and gave less penetration may be jumping the gun, but I can understand the frustration. Years ago I can't explain for sure what in my set up was bad, but after loosing 3 deer I switch my entire bow setup. I made a 63 yard shot on a cow elk and had a pass through. I know most people do not believe this when I tell them but every thing must have been perfect and very lucky. The broad head looked like new yet so there was no bone contact and that is the factor I believe.
 
wolftalonID

wolftalonID

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I believe you and have had a 72 yard pass through on a cow elk. Cut on contact broad-heads are VALUABLE choices when hunting elk. Many people love their muzzies and they do well on thick elk hide up close....but that same head suffers at distance.

Elk wallow a ton....and build up heavy layers of mud and grit in their shoulders. Bulls have VERY heavy hide near their shoulders as armor for battle. Shooting one up high with a dull broad-head can result in it backing out. But to claim a three inch penetration, and "no bone" was hit....is a tad stretched.

I have not switched to Deep 6 setups yet, but have noticed how a cut on contact broad-head is always the way to go on that thick elk hide.

On a deer, at ranges under 30 yards, most bows today will blow through that contact shoulder bone and still take the deer out. I personally took a shot that penetrated through both shoulders if a deer from 20 yards and the deer ran or tried to anyway 10 yards and was done. I was literally field dressing less than 5 minutes after the shot.

On elk, thats not going to happen, and why they tell you to wait on the shot until that animal steps forward with his leg, opening up that shoulder blade and exposing the vitals. Even their ribs can stop a dull broad-head.

Also....take some time and have your bow paper tuned before every hunt. Arrows coming out wagging are not going to penetrate worth a crap as the energy is being spent wagging all the way to the target. Make sure they shoot perfect through paper to make sure they will be putting all their energy into the target and making better penetration.
 
DryFlyGuy

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Hycntryhtr said:
The penetration of the deep six is a joke.. I haven't seen one do a complete pass through yet.. My buddy shot his deer at 27 yds only got 6" of pen, shot a bull at 32 yds and the arrow went in 3" and fell out, didn't hit bone on any of them.. Not worth the money, I bought a dz and a half of them


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That is crazy! I put the helix broadhead on my injexions and compared penetration against FMJ with G5 strikers on my rinehart target. The injexions were notably outperforming the FMJ's. Unfortunately I got blanked with my bow last year, so I haven't killed an animal with them yet.
 
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Bughalli

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I don't get the earlier comments about not getting penetration and quoting ridiculous shallow penetration numbers. Almost seems like a joke because it's so far from the truth. At a minimum, if all variables are equal, they will penetrate just as good as any standard arrow. If those numbers are true, that guy has other issues going on that have nothing to do with deep six.

Anyway, I shoot VAP1 with a deep six inserts. I like the setup. Wasn't a fan of the outcerts, which is why I went to deep 6 inserts. This year I shot a deer at a lengthwise angle and had a clean pass through. Deer only went 15 yards. In doing side by side comparisons with my VAP1 w/deep 6 inserts and my prior Easton arrows, I got slightly deeper penetration on foam targets with VAP1. Was a difference of 2 inches. I actually expected and hoped for a bigger difference. Note, that's with everything staying the same, but the VAP1 arrows were 4gr lighter in total arrow weight.

Arrow flight was true and groups were a little tighter by a very small amount. The only downside I found of deep 6 was having to buy all new broad heads.
 
MileHigh

MileHigh

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Deep Six.jpgI've been using the injexions with100gr RamCat broadheads for just over a year now. I used them on my Hog and Elk hunts last year and didn't have any problems. Both hunts resulted in pass through shots. Recently I've started to shoot out to 100 yards and so far I'm happy with the setup.
 
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