I don't quite understand your comments about property damage. Corner cross is stepping over a corner from public to public. Where from within this action does the damage come from? Obviously those that give all of us a bad name may throw trash on public land or even trespass and throw trash on private land, but that has nothing to do with accessing public land.For those of you who don't seem to have the common sense to understand the problem I'll try to point out a couple of issues that most property owners have to deal with if they allow people to cross without permission.
First, this sets a precedence that is hard to argue against if you ever have to take someone to court for damaging your property. It all depends on the judge but once you create a history of allowing people to cross without prior permission then you pretty much loose any chance of stopping it in the future.
Second, I mentioned damaged property, usually more of a problem for the larger land owners but even a guy like me (20 acres) has had issues with people too. It's been my experience that the people that think that it's OK to ignore property rights because it's to their convenience are the very people that damage the property. Some of your posts reaffirm my belief that these kinds of people are the problem, a lack of respect for other people's property, a refusal to show common courtesy by simply asking the property owner for permission to cross their property, and rude personal attacks (swampokie) just prove that you guys are your own worst enemies, why would I even consider letting people that show no respect toward my property or my person have access to either.
No, simply walking over an imaginary line doesn't do any damage but I've picked up a lot of trash left by those people. I've had to remove the carcasses of poached game and just a few weeks ago I had some guy try to drive up a walking trail that I built on my property (which parallels my property line), I suspect that he'd show up on a 4-wheeler and continue following my property line if I didn't stop him. If he had shown me some courtesy and asked if he could cross my property I'd have shown him a road that he could have driven that is open to the public and a couple of walking trails that I wouldn't mind him using, but now I doubt I'd even let somebody do that without getting their contact information and arranging for a check-in and check-out process. You wonder why land owners are such rotten bustards, it's because they have to deal with people like you guys.
Now I assume that in all your days of crossing your neighbor's land while hunting, you knew those neighbors personally and you guys even hunted together on each other's property. In fact, you had prior permission through casual conversation and maybe even expressly given to each other, that's all I'm saying people should do. If you want to cross private property be considerate enough to ask for permission fist and I'd bet that more often than not you'll get permission.If you make the effort to ask for permission to cross private property you improve your chances of getting to that remote spot you like, a little effort on your part to be a good neighbor just might solve you dilemma rather than pissing and moaning about land owner's rights.
I've cured that problem. I invented the pole vaulting trekking poles. Just attach the 2 5' poles together, and bam! 10' pole vault pole to get you over any corner!My problem is when I find two properties that are connected in a diamond fashion with public on the rest of it along with having 6' high fences.
I don't think that I can hop that high anymore.
i so miss top gun 3006’s fire and enthusiasm! So peaceful yet sometimes boring since he left us.The only way this is settled is if Buzz pulls over on the interstate and heads off to go corner jumping while at the same time TopGun3006 drives by and sees him.
Then we have a.
Rammont, you talking about the "reality of law" regarding corner crossing in laughable...and only illustrates that you don't know what you're talking about.Buzz, are done boring me with all the old family pictures? You have created an argument based on your feeling that you should be able to do what ever you want, not the reality of the law. I know your memory is probably slipping at your age but in my very first post I said
Now I assume that in all your days of crossing your neighbor's land while hunting, you knew those neighbors personally and you guys even hunted together on each other's property. In fact, you had prior permission through casual conversation and maybe even expressly given to each other, that's all I'm saying people should do. If you want to cross private property be considerate enough to ask for permission fist and I'd bet that more often than not you'll get permission.
I'm replying only because I felt that your long winded essay on your family's past deserved a response since your implication is that I'm just another out-of-state rich guy and therefore deserves to be insulted and treated with no respect - you obviously are a John Testor Democrat since you like to use his words. Attacking me and making up lies about what I said ("my country"? you were the one that called it that, I never did) isn't helping anybody, it just proves that you're a rude old man with a bad attitude.
If you like to corner jump then I'm sure that Buzz will be glad to pay any fines and court costs if you get caught and he'll be glad to let you have any game he takes while your license privileges are suspended. Once, a long time ago, I had a boss tell me that integrity was a quaint old concept that was laughable, I guess it's true.