7 Pts for WY, MRS and First time speed goat hunter

[In God We Trust]

Hey BuzzH and wy-tex, I understand the resident attitude but instead of being smug help the poster out. I live here in Colorado and know a lot of units the MRS doesn't list that I won't share on here. But I also don't knock other guys for posting and trying to help a guy out.

 

[hoshour]

The thing is that record bucks come from almost every county in WY and if you live there for a while you learn some sweet spots that are in units other than the best-known ones because you can't draw those units very often. I give those guys credit because they earned that knowledge.

But, when you're trying to help out a nonresident you start with stats like B&C entries, success rates, demand, public land and Guy's ratings. He's 3rd or 4th generation WY and does a tremendous amount of hunting, not to mention all that he hears from biologists and other hunters. I don't know anyone that I would trust more for rating the best units. That doesn't mean there aren't good spots in other units or other counties.

 

[jtm307]

Any unit which required at least 6 or 7 points last year will give you your money's worth. If I were in your boots, I'd pick one randomly & feel quite confident I wouldn't be disappointed.

 

[tristan1127]

I really get a good laugh out of some of the advice given here...

Well I really respect our military. The original poster said he was going with his military brother and if you wanted to be a good American perhaps you would private message him with some sound advice.

 

[Eberle]

What about Unit 67?

 

[480/277]

Well I really respect our military. The original poster said he was going with his military brother and if you wanted to be a good American perhaps you would private message him with some sound advice.

Not saying the man is or is not military. But a lot of people that have not had their dicks in the dirt play that card. My BIL just returned from his fourth deployment. You would never know he is in the military much less awarded the bronze star.

Aside from that, we all have probably been burned taking a "friend" to one of our spots, only to find out it is now his spot, and six of his friends. I don't believe generic answers to "where should I go" posts make you unAmerican. YMMV

 

[Slugz]

suggestions?

92/96 is a very solid option unless you can get some more boots on the ground intel from the biologist. Keep researching and use the info you can get ahold of.

 

[wy-tex]

PM was sent after his first post. I just find it amusing which areas NR seem to recommend. Perhaps judge not lest you be judged yourself.
Lots of military service in my and spouses family so not sure where that comment comes from. As I said, I sent him a PM after the first post with some good info, not previously mentioned areas , so................ Thick skin here but guess I'll keep my recommendations to PM's from now on.

 

[wy-tex]

Guess we got off topic and I have to take some blame. My point was most are over analyzing. I do see NR talking up the same areas over and over. Makes me wonder. As far as being a good American by sharing advice, he got it and I did share areas I hunt personally.
My intention was not to belittle, but to make a point that because I do live in antelope country I base my application choices on what I see in the field not on MRS or any other publication. They are great tools for those who are not lucky enough to live where they hunt, I am just that lucky.
Apologies if I came across as smug, but I am amused by some comments. I certainly never meant to disparaged anyone. So enough from me. I believe he got some good advice from all. We have great hunting all over the state.
There will be some great bucks out there this year, good moisture should bring excellent forage. Good luck to all of you on your hunts.

 

[BuzzH]

I think that's the point, many pass off information as if they have personal knowledge of areas, when I know from their comments, they haven't set foot in them.

Some of the information being shared here is 5+ years out of date. I think its sad that some will send an unknowing hunter into a unit they haven't personally been, giving unrealistic opinions on trophy/hunt quality. If I had 7 points in Wyoming right now, I would look a lot deeper than a record book, advice from the internet, and a recommended area color code.

Lots of other good sources for information out there...I'd be wayyy more inclined to spend some time talking with biologists, wardens, etc. than reading a magazine or asking for help on a hunting forum.

 

[Flyforfun]

I think that's the point, many pass off information as if they have personal knowledge of areas, when I know from their comments, they haven't set foot in them.

Some of the information being shared here is 5+ years out of date. I think its sad that some will send an unknowing hunter into a unit they haven't personally been, giving unrealistic opinions on trophy/hunt quality. If I had 7 points in Wyoming right now, I would look a lot deeper than a record book, advice from the internet, and a recommended area color code.

Lots of other good sources for information out there...I'd be wayyy more inclined to spend some time talking with biologists, wardens, etc. than reading a magazine or asking for help on a hunting forum.

I guess I'm not sure what your point or goal is by coming to this forum or thread and provide nothing but condensending resident attitude. At least WY-TX provided something useful as the first reply to the OP but even joined in useless post. We get it, you live there and have the best knowledge about what's currently happening. But the rest of don't. We have to rely on any nugget of info we can get. Including Internet forums. Of course bios and game and fish people are part of the process, thanks John Madden for that. I let the first ones pass because somethings get lost in translation over the Internet, but doubling down, got it. You could at least say thank you for subsidizing your tags considering how much we pay to hunt there.

 

[BuzzH]

Flyforfun,

I'll tell you what the point is.

1. You wont see me ever make a recommendation on a hunting unit that I haven't personally been to, hunted, or spent time in...unlike about half the replies on this thread.

2. I want a NR hunter to come to Wyoming, with the best knowledge they can get, and have an enjoyable and realistic expectations of the hunt that was recommended.

3. Any information in a hunting rag, is already out dated. By the time it hits the "top unit" or the "best area", its already over in a majority of them...some times years late. Learned that lesson the hard way a few times, don't like seeing others about to learn the same lesson.

Sound advice is to cross reference anything you "hear" or "read"...most never do that, FACT.

They can roll the dice with that information provided by someone that's hunting on memories of what a unit "was" 5-10 years ago, what they heard, or what the guy on the next barstool told them. Burn points, have a mediocre hunt, and call it good...fine by me.

I don't operate that way...but to each their own.

BTW, the subsidy comment was awesome...and you're welcome, in advance.

 

[480/277]

Spot on Buzz. While building points I hunted a unit with leftovers. After our hunt I drove down to scout one of those top units, which is mentioned in this thread. I would had been so disappointed if I burned my points based on recommendations here and the rags. I killed a better buck in the left over unit than I saw in that "top" unit.

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

Spot on Buzz. While building points I hunted a unit with leftovers. After our hunt I drove down to scout one of those top units, which is mentioned in this thread. I would had been so disappointed if I burned my points based on recommendations here and the rags. I killed a better buck in the left over unit than I saw in that "top" unit.

You are on the right track as far as I'm concerned. I have hunted Wy as a NR since 1980, lots of different units. I really think someone makes a mistake by just building points and never hunting. Left over tags and doe/fawn tags will get you in the field with a chance to fill a tag, bring some meat home and do a little scouting for new areas while you are there. I will probably hunting a unit I have never hunted before in my next hunt and I'll do a lot of scouting before I go. I am retired, so this makes it easy.

If I had 7 points (I don't) for antelope, I would definitely pick a "potential unit" for a later hunt and buy a doe/fawn tag for it. Save the points so you won't be sorry later.

 

[HuskyMusky]

I personally would not burn 7 pts lightly on antelope... isn't that near max antelope pts for WY?

If your buddy has 0 or not many points I would consider him hunting a nearby unit that is easier to draw while you hunt a premium 7pt type unit...

I would arrive 2 or 3 days early if doing DIY and having never hunted/been to that unit.

or draw a 2nd choice tag with your buddy for a low point unit?

good luck!

 

[lostriverproductions]

I think one thing that was missed is the OP never mentioned what they were looking for in the hunt. Best chance at a giant, see lots of goats every day with a decent chance at a mid 70's? I'll say this if its your first time hunting antelope, you won't be able to tell the difference in a 70" vs a 80" unless they are standing side by side. I would pick a units with a good amount of public land that you can draw and have fun. If I had 7 points I would look at 67, but that is based off being in there two years ago.

 

[Flyforfun]

Flyforfun,

I'll tell you what the point is.

1. You wont see me ever make a recommendation on a hunting unit that I haven't personally been to, hunted, or spent time in...unlike about half the replies on this thread.

2. I want a NR hunter to come to Wyoming, with the best knowledge they can get, and have an enjoyable and realistic expectations of the hunt that was recommended.

3. Any information in a hunting rag, is already out dated. By the time it hits the "top unit" or the "best area", its already over in a majority of them...some times years late. Learned that lesson the hard way a few times, don't like seeing others about to learn the same lesson.

Sound advice is to cross reference anything you "hear" or "read"...most never do that, FACT.

They can roll the dice with that information provided by someone that's hunting on memories of what a unit "was" 5-10 years ago, what they heard, or what the guy on the next barstool told them. Burn points, have a mediocre hunt, and call it good...fine by me.

I don't operate that way...but to each their own.

BTW, the subsidy comment was awesome...and you're welcome, in advance.

Hey Buzz, thanks for the reply. Can't argue with much you said. I also agree if I was able to spend the amount of time with "boots on the ground" scouting that I have studying maps, data from G&F and anywhere else this would be easy. Nothing can replace that. What I see happening is most of us (NR) are doing the best we can and making reccomendations based on all the available info. Me personally, I would never recommend a specific unit but what I have done is provide a guide for how I have done my research.

If you would have said it this way there would have been nothing said. But there was nothing constructive provided, only stating how we ( NR) are basically idiots. But I said I don't disagree with you, I'm betting some people even provide false info on the Internet.

This is my first of what I hope to be many hunts in WY and each year I will explore more trying to add to my knowledge to make more informed decisions and maybe even help out a guy here and there.

 

[jeitutis]

All - thanks for the information.

Didn't mean to start a peeing match on here amongst hunting brethren. I'm not looking for someone's secret trophy spot. Just looking for some info to get us started. I used MRS as a starting point but moving around so much in the last couple years has precluded me from scouting--I was assigned overseas and prior to that was IL & FL so that made it hard to scout w/boots on the ground.

No biggie from the folks replying with goofy comments--I don't pay em' any attn.

To those of you that have responded--thank you.

We have a lot of thinking to do before we apply.

We are just looking to have a fun hunt and camp experience--not trying to set any B&C records.

J

 

[lostinOregon]

With 7 points you have many options to look over. You are doing the right thing by seeking advice and looking for a unit that you will have a good hunt. In my opinion it is hard to have a bad antelope hunt in Wyoming, no matter what unit you choose.

Buzz has been banned from other sites because of his attitude. I'm sure he will take a shot at me for posting this but I just don't like bully's and Buzz fits that bill. He has a few folks that worship him, but Eastman's would be better off to send him on his way also.

I personally hunted 67 last year for antelope and can tell you what I saw and learned. Good luck on your search and if I can answer any questions for you let me know.

Rich

 

[jeitutis]

With 7 points you have many options to look over. You are doing the right thing by seeking advice and looking for a unit that you will have a good hunt. In my opinion it is hard to have a bad antelope hunt in Wyoming, no matter what unit you choose.

Buzz has been banned from other sites because of his attitude. I'm sure he will take a shot at me for posting this but I just don't like bully's and Buzz fits that bill. He has a few folks that worship him, but Eastman's would be better off to send him on his way also.

I personally hunted 67 last year for antelope and can tell you what I saw and learned. Good luck on your search and if I can answer any questions for you let me know.

Rich

Like I said, not trying to get anyone banned or anything...I don't pay folks like that any attn...life is too short.

PM sent.