Hell Jim, you and I can make that happen!If it really is 2 more days maybe we can hit 100 posts
2014 Oregon Draw Results
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Alabama, for Antelope I would buy raffle tickets before trying to draw as a NR unless you have 18 or more points. Oregon is not kind to the NR's
OregonJim
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I feel like I should have my head examined accumulating resident antelope points when I will need over 12 and can head out to WY and hunt good units with three.....theres 83
Alabama
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I understand about the difficulty of hunting Roosevelt elk and blacktails. I truly do. I hunt in southeastern Alabama where our bow season is 3 1/2 months long and gun season is 2 1/2 months long. Our deer are truly spooky and killing a mature specimen is a season long endeavor (sometimes not so successful). If I hunt hard and come away unsuccessful I can proudly eat tag soup! I can hunt mule deer and RM elk in MT, ID, WY, NV, AZ, CO, NM and UT. But the choices to hunt blacktails and Roosevelt elk are limited to only 3 states. WA is too expensive as you must buy the tag before entering a drawing for limited entry tags. CA only gives 1 non resident permit for elk per year. It has the best blacktail hunting but you must purchase a license before entering the draw. OR is the best option to spread my money over a couple of species and get a chance while I'm at it to draw a sheep tag.
Alabama
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OregonJim
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OregonJim
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Hopefully I don't have to hit 12 before I reset to zero...... and stay that way too!
I'd like to be that "random" guy again
I get wanting a Blacktail and Rosi. I don't really get point saving for them though, IMO the best chance at a good Blacktail is late season archery OTC. Most good Rosi bulls are killed during OTC archery hunts too.
I haven't hunted west of I-5 much at all but I have hunted from the PCT to I-5 a lot in the last 30 years. I've only killed a couple elk there in all those years in the Cascades. I hunted a unit in NE Oregon in '11 and saw more bulls in 2 days than I did in the Cascades in 30 years.
I used to do pretty good on Blacktails, but I've only managed to take 3 bucks in the last 10 years. It's tough hunting these days.
Alabama
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If the nosebleed section works for you then you've got a deal. If you want 50 yard line then I'd be better off hiring a guide and hunting private land. It would be cheaper than those tickets!Sure, if you can get me a ticket to Auburn vs Alabama
PS Roll Tide!
Umpqua Hunter
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I have no idea how to consistently get someone into a blacktail or a Roosevelt, and that's the truth. If I did I would be killing them consistently.
I've been at it 30 years hunting Blacktails and Roosevelts here in Oregon. I still feel like a novice every time I go out. I can't emphasize enough how tough they are to hunt. You can't pattern them since big blacktails go almost completely nocturnal in rifle season. I run a dozen game cams on our property that has virtually no hunting pressure and it is still very tough. It actually pains me for an out-of-stater to make and investment and think they will have even a remote chance of a quality hunt. If I could do anything to talk you out of it I would. If you absolutely have to do it, book a private land guided hunt.
On the flip side we are running probably 90% on out of state hunts (NV, AZ, CO, MT, UT, WY), DIY in units we have never hunted before.
There is a good reason I've learned to play the application game out of state.
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WapitiBob
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I wouldn't pay $650 to elk hunt in OR and I live here.
The guys killing blacktails do it in November or hunt pvt land. The guys killing Rosie's know the pvt timberland they ride in on and which patch of timber the elk will jump to when bumped. Neither will be easy for a first timer especially with the deer herd in the tank.
The guys killing blacktails do it in November or hunt pvt land. The guys killing Rosie's know the pvt timberland they ride in on and which patch of timber the elk will jump to when bumped. Neither will be easy for a first timer especially with the deer herd in the tank.
OregonJim
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UH and Bob speak the truth.
I am by no means a novice and I avg a BT buck every third year. (nothing remarkable)
In California's B zone and A zone I was getting one almost every year.
I avg a bull opportunity every 3rd year (bow).
When I say opportunity I mean I get a single stalk on a decent animal.
I did a little better before we lost one timber companies access and the other one started charging!
I am by no means a novice and I avg a BT buck every third year. (nothing remarkable)
In California's B zone and A zone I was getting one almost every year.
I avg a bull opportunity every 3rd year (bow).
When I say opportunity I mean I get a single stalk on a decent animal.
I did a little better before we lost one timber companies access and the other one started charging!
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Alabama, I hope your not taking the posts about Blacktail and Roosevelts the wrong way. Us guys here in Oregon really do know what it's like and are tying to save you from the pain and setting the stage realistic. For a NR to come here and kill even a legal deer or elk is asking a lot, to kill a mature deer or elk on the west side is unheard of without a guide or some help from a local. Even those routes it's still tough. Good Blacktail hunters live and breath hunting them, I used to be one till I got burned out on it and realized there's other things I wanted to do in life beside live in the woods from June till the end of November. Not to mention once the logging stopped the deer disappeared from my hunting area, they never came back and I doubt they will. If you do hunt them focus on the southern end of the state and look for November hunts.
Wild Country
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Bamma, everyone here speaks the truth and I too would suggest stop paying for the points to draw a Rosie tag and start learning an area and terrain that suites your style of hunting in an OTC unit and the same goes for blacktail. I am on a 7 yr dry spell for killing an archery elk and have been on an amazing run with blacktail having taken 6 in row but that is misleading cuz 4 have been forked horns. I also bike in a little over 4 miles before I start hunting my area. So I really believe you should start spending your hard earned coin on OTC hunts so you get more for your money. And good luck as it's quite a challenge to harvest either species!
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I'm ready for results. I can't believe we haven't heard yet. I don't recall waiting past the 18TH since we could check online.
OregonJim
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