Making 1000yrd shot is not what I call hunting. Your thoughts

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highcountry said:
Plentycoupe- I couldn’t agree more with your post.

I think whether you’re a short-ranger or a long-ranger you’re out there because you love being in the outdoors, love the physical and mental challenge and love being around people who have that in common. Spending the time to be prepared and using good judgment and restraint is what ethics is about, not some arbitrary number of yards.

By the way, one thing I think we can all agree on is that it’s because of the sacrifices your making that we have the right to hunt and own firearms, among other things, so thank you for your service!
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No problem brother! I love the job, just don't love the time away as much! Soon I will be back to sunny Alaska and then, with fingers crossed, I will find a place to hunt Muleys in Wyoming next year.
 
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Plentycoupe- I have a cousin who lives in WY and is helping me locate some deer hunting (also getting points and trying to dial in some muley hunting in colorado). Let me know if you need info or a few hunting partners!
 
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plentycoupe

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Thanks highcountry

HEy brother I sure do appreciate the offer. I will be in contact via pm. I am looking to put a hunt together in Wyoming, hopefully next year. I have will have three points in July so that should give me a few options.
I am always looking for information and new hunting friends. Maybe we will put something together for mule deer and then Alaska after that!
Thanks again
Jason
 
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Wow what an interesting thread, lots of different viewpoints to be considered. First let me say something about these TV shows...they never tell you how many animals they miss or cripple to get that perfect footage. I can only speak for myself when it comes to how and when I shoot. I have a custom rifle that is fully capable of the accuracy necessary to shoot less than minute of angle groups at 1000 yards. I have done all the homework, developed my handloads and done lots of practice, but does that mean I am going to shoot anything at 1000 yards? Probably not. I have killed a few antelope and deer at the 500 yard mark when I determined I could not get any closer and was confident that I could make the shot. I really don't want to have to chase an animal down that I have made a bad shot on, done that too many times with several of my former hunting pals. Not fun and a potential waste of some good eating.

All that said, do I think that it is ethical? Thats for each individual to decide for themselves, I know what I will do.
 
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FAIR CHASE HUNTING!!!!!! Shooting an animal at 1000 yds doesnt seem very fair or respectful to the animal. Just my 2 cents. Nothing better than the thrill of getting close with a bow!!
 
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If it is a quick humane kill and feeds you or your family, then I don't have a problem with it. I have more problems with people who try to take our hunting right away from us. I will spend my time and energy fighting them rather than telling a fellow hunter how he/she should hunt. I don't enjoy shooting (guns) as much as some people, but I practice so as to make good shots and quick kills, and I know my limits. Some people love to shoot long range and translate that into hunting, to each his own. I like to hold a bow and blend in with nature hoping to get an opportunity to take an animal, then honor that animal by using its meat to nourish my family. If it has a great rack, cool, if not, then I will probably not have to tenderize the meat as much, just as cool.
 
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If folks can make the shot more power to them. If they wound them and know it, then it's something the hunter has to live with and it can eat at them just as equally as the excitement of of walking up and shooting one point blank. I'm prepped to shoot 800yds if need be (I'd like to be <600yd), but I acknowledge that sometimes trying to get closer can go from being a good idea to being upset that you had an opportunity at a deer you'll probably never see again.
 
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Wow!!Ill say it again. I never thought starting this thread would create this much diverse dialog. All in all, after reading all the posts, the one statement that sticks out the most is those who preach WE SHOULD NOT FIGHT WITH EACH OTHER. LETS FOCUS OUR ENERGY ON THOSE WHO TRY AND TAKE AWAY A PASSION AND OR OBSESSION THAT WE ALL SHARE. Not yelling with the capslock; just saying that if I take anything away from this that will be it. Good luck this fall and remember whatever distance you are shooting "aim small miss small'
 
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I think it is definitely a "to each their own" sort of topic..
PERSONALLY I love love love stalking in super close! But I am a bow hunter... The only thing I hunt with a rifle is my antelope and that's only if I am unsuccessful with my bow. I have my gun set up to where I am comfortable shooting 500 yards but I have never actually shot anything over 300 yards. The majority of my shots are 150 yards or less.. Except for when I am prarie dog hunting :)
I could never feel comfortable or happy at making a long distance shot. If I wanted to do that, I would sit on my back porch and shoot deer. But where is the fun in that? I love getting all dressed up in my camo and trying to be sneaky and scent free.
But that's just my preferences :)
 
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What's so awesome about it? What does it prove? Does it prove your not capable of getting any closer? I don't care how much skill someone has or how much they practice, or how patient they are. None of those are even relevant. It's all about what is ethical and what is not. Unfortunatley, ethics vary from person to person.
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I think "skill, practice and patience" are not only relevant, but the entire foundation of any responsible shooter.
 
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I am also neutral on the long range shooting. In December 2010 I had wounded a non-typical buck in the rear leg on a shot at about 260 yards, we lost him over night. The next day followed the blood trail up the mountain and we spotted him at about 700 yards bedded under a rock pile. As we started moving towards him he got up and started moving away, there was no way we were going to be able to get closer so we set up on the tripod and my dad told me to hold my .270 with a stock scope about 6 feet above his head. So at 650 yards I was able to drop this buck with a complete hail mary of a shot. Now this buck is on my wall, but I do not brag about that shot, a lot of the time I dont even mention it. But I think when a long range shot is your only option sometimes it can pay off and some times it can really screw you.
 
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jenbickel said:
I could never feel comfortable or happy at making a long distance shot. If I wanted to do that, I would sit on my back porch and shoot deer. But where is the fun in that? I love getting all dressed up in my camo and trying to be sneaky and scent free. But that's just my preferences :)
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Lol, that's exactly what I do, with does anyway. I would feel absolutely silly dressing in camo and spraying myself with scent killer and then 'stalk' through the alfalfa up to one.

Sending a 250 gr. AccuBond from far away is a much more thrilling way to punch a fun ticket, as Primos say.
 
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Same kind of debate but I can compare the two, I hear people say running dogs to catch bear and lion is cheating and no fun. That is a crock of crap is alot of work to run dogs. Ask any SUCCESSFUL houndsmen how many hours a week they put in with their dogs and I guarantee you it is more than think. We spent about 40 when running ours. It is alot of work. It is also alot of work to shoot that ranges. You can't go buy a rifle and head down to Sportsmans and buy the best ammo you can buy. You spend alot of time on the range and reloading room. It is all for the same result just a different way of getting there. Any type of hunting you do you are going to spend alot of time and energy doing it, same goes for shooting long range or getting in close.
 
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Ethics and competance are the issues with any shot. I watched a local hunter last week park in the middle of the paved highway, jump out, shoot from the road illegally at a deer 75 yards away then leave without checking for blood! clearly he was not ethical at any distance! I had a very unsuccessful back surgery 5 years ago. While trying to heal I built a long range deer and varmit rifle and both practiced and digested everything i could on rifles and shooting. I am now much worse physically than the day I had surgery or the 2 follow ups. I must now hunt only from the road since a trip thru walmart puts me in bed. I hunt with someone always but longer shots are often my only chance. Yet I know my ability AND stay well within that ability while my horses get fat. Many say long range hunting has no challenge and is not hunting. I hope and pray you are never in my situation because being out now is the challenge! be safe everyone! catman
 
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