Arizona Man Got Rammed In Utah

[JimP]

Catchy title ain't it.

This guy tried to get away with a residential permit for a desert bighorn hunt but ended up on the wrong side of it.

https://www.sltrib.com/pb/news/2018/01/23/prominent-arizona-guide-loses-hunting-rights-in-47-states-for-poaching-a-desert-bighorn-in-utah

 

[mallardsx2]

I bet you that happens a lot more than people realize.

I know people who claim residency in a state they never visit.

They work on the pipeline and travel the country and reap the low tax rates of their "Home town".

Its no different.

 

[Winchester]

Unbelievable !

 

[Hilltop]

I suppose renting an apartment for 6 months was a lot cheaper than a sheep hunt up north... crazy what people will do. Guessing someone had to have been pretty upset and turned him in or they likely wouldn't have caught him.

 

[Maxhunter]

Yep, always someone trying to cheat the system!

 

[brushcreek]

someone explain what the problem was here - did he not meet the 6 months requirement? or are they saying he never really moved?

 

[Spudman]

Speechless...

 

[Ikeepitcold]

You can’t fix stupid.

 

[Hilltop]

someone explain what the problem was here - did he not meet the 6 months requirement? or are they saying he never really moved?

Re-read the entire article. It explains the law they have- basically it's against the law to change residency for the sole purpose of obtaining a tag. He moved back immediately after drawing making it plain as day that he moved only to get residency for the tag. Renting that place was a 10th the cost of a sheep hunt up north.

 

[brushcreek]

Re-read the entire article. It explains the law they have- basically it's against the law to change residency for the sole purpose of obtaining a tag. He moved back immediately after drawing making it plain as day that he moved only to get residency for the tag. Renting that place was a 10th the cost of a sheep hunt up north.

you'd think he would have been smarter than that. stay a few months after the 6 months was up and he probably would have been ok.

 

[JimP]

I don't think that without being at the trial and hearing just what was presented we'll never know just what it was that caused the jury to convict him. I'm sure that part of it was possibly that he didn't actually set up residency in the home that he rented. But I am also sure that there were other things, one which could of been that he held a Arizona resident license in the same year.

 

[Daubs]

Yep, likely he pissed someone off, and they pressed the issue with the game and parks, and local authorities.

Agree, if he would have kept residency post drawing the tag, they probably wouldn't have a case.

I'm willing to bet this isn't the first time he's bent the rules...and likely the reason he got made an example of.

 

[WapitiBob]

I don't think that without being at the trial and hearing just what was presented we'll never know just what it was that caused the jury to convict him. I'm sure that part of it was possibly that he didn't actually set up residency in the home that he rented. But I am also sure that there were other things, one which could of been that he held a Arizona resident license in the same year.

A guy on another forum knows him and sat thru the whole thing. He did exactly what the "domicile" regulation says you can't do. Jack ass has multiple slams, guides, and knew exactly what he was doing.

 

[JimP]

A guy on another forum knows him and sat thru the whole thing. He did exactly what the "domicile" regulation says you can't do. Jack ass has multiple slams, guides, and knew exactly what he was doing.

So, where did he screw up at?

If he knew exactly what he was doing something went wrong with what he did.

 

[tim]

Larry Altimus knew exactly what he was doing. He is actually pretty famous in the sheep world.

 

[WapitiBob]

So, where did he screw up at?

If he knew exactly what he was doing something went wrong with what he did.

He moved back to AZ and thought nobody would notice.

 

[JimP]

I'd say that it was a little bit more than that.

I had a Utah combination license which included a deer tag when I moved to Colorado with no problem because I was a resident of Utah when it was purchased. He supposedly was a resident of Utah when the tags were applied for and drawn and didn't move back to Arizona until shortly after the draw, so technically he was OK.

I am willing to say that he talked to someone or someone was ticked off at him and dropped a dime on him and what he was doing, and they got him for fraud of some kind. Which turned into obtaining a license and tag under fraudulent means

 

[Daubs]

I am willing to say that he talked to someone or someone was ticked off at him and dropped a dime on him and what he was doing, and they got him for fraud of some kind. Which turned into obtaining a license and tag under fraudulent means

^^^ Agree ^^^

 

[JimP]

It will also be interesting to see if any of the other states that he hunted in open up investigations on how he obtained the tags for the animals that he took in those states.

Anyone here remember Kurt Darner? He had quite a few mule deer heads entered in the B&C books, that is until they found out that he poached them.

 

[WapitiBob]

He obtained a resident license under false pretenses then killed an animal. At that point they can pile on the charges, and they did.

///
Resident means a person who has a domicile (fixed permanent home and principal establishment) in Utah for six consecutive months immediately preceding the purchase of a license or permit, AND DOES NOT claim residency for hunting, fishing or trapping in any other state or country.

Domicile means the place:
? where an individual has a fixed permanent home and principal establishment;
? to which the individual if absent, intends to return; and
? in which the individual and the individual?s family voluntarily reside, not for a special or temporary purpose, but with the intention of making a permanent home.

To create a new domicile an individual must:
? abandon the old domicile; and
? be able to prove that a new domicile has been established.
///

The guy lives in AZ, everybody knows he lives in AZ, suddenly lives in Utah and he draws a Utah Sheep as a resident, then he's back in AZ. He's beyond stupid to think he could get away with it.