Wyoming nonresident deer questions

aboss014

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So I?ve only hunted region A 2x in the past on a general tag. Doing my research for this year?s draw. I see on the WY G&F site that all of region A is ?any deer off private land?. I take this as no hunting allowed on public lands as a nonresident, is this correct? Seems like a dumb question but it just seems very odd.

Also, I?m apply in a group of 6 guys. Only 2 of us have only 1 preference point. Looking at draw odds in the general hunting type it shows that ?<1? there is a 100% draw odd. Would our group fall into that category if we elect to use our points?

Thank you in advance!


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wy-tex

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Look at the Hunt Planner. It shows all of region A as any deer on private and antlered deer on public lands. You can shoot a buck on any part of A but only doe on private land with a general tag.
 

NEWHunter

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You would fall in to the < 1 category. Total group points are averaged over the total number of applicants. You guys would be in the draw with 1/3 of a point - 2 points for 6 applicants.
 

aboss014

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So we applied tonight, when we applied it asked each of us to apply with a point ($430) or without a point ($389). Does this mean we buy a point and the license without using our points? I never even saw a portion where I could use my points...


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cking13

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That means if you dont draw your first choice you will receive a point. If you choose the lesser option then you will not receive a point if you dont draw.
 

aboss014

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That means if you dont draw your first choice you will receive a point. If you choose the lesser option then you will not receive a point if you dont draw.
Hmm ok. In the past didn?t you get a point if you didn?t draw first choice without the extra $40? I was never asked that question in the past.


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cking13

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I?m not sure bud. It asked me that question last year when I applied


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Alabama

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You have to choose the preference point option if you want to gain a point if you don't draw your 1st choice. If you do draw your 1st choice they will refund the point fee. You can choose not to get a point and just buy one later. It's been like that as long as I've been applying (6-7 years).
 

aboss014

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You have to choose the preference point option if you want to gain a point if you don't draw your 1st choice. If you do draw your 1st choice they will refund the point fee. You can choose not to get a point and just buy one later. It's been like that as long as I've been applying (6-7 years).
Maybe it was like that and I just never realized it since we applied for a 100% area only first choice.


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RICMIC

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A couple clarifications that may confuse the issue further. 1. You don't gain a point if you draw the first choice tag, and don't count that point as part of your draw for this year. 2. <1 means less than 1 point, but on the G&F statistics pages it isn't broken down further. So, < 1 could have been .00001, or .99999. On our group elk application for 2017, the previous stats for NR GEN elk was <2, and allowing for point creep, a 2+ average would likely be safe. I had everyone in the group buy a point the year before (even the guy with 4 pts.), to maximize the average. That put us at 2.8 for the draw, and we just shared the costs of the points after the fact. We went 4 for 6, and had a great hunt. Good luck.
 

Hilltop

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Aboss, keep in mind that past drawing odds only tell you what has happened in the past and in no way guarantee what this years draw will be like. I have been unsuccessful 3 times in the last 5 years on draws that looked like a guarantee. The number of points to draw a tag rarely stay the same... It is worth applying and I believe you have a good shot but I wouldn't concrete your plans until you actually draw.
 

aboss014

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Aboss, keep in mind that past drawing odds only tell you what has happened in the past and in no way guarantee what this years draw will be like. I have been unsuccessful 3 times in the last 5 years on draws that looked like a guarantee. The number of points to draw a tag rarely stay the same... It is worth applying and I believe you have a good shot but I wouldn't concrete your plans until you actually draw.
Yeah that?s the mentality we have. We applied and are going to hope for the best. Thanks for the info.


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