- Jul 24, 2017
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About how many Preference points are needed to have a chance of getting drawn for a Wy moose tag? Do any outfitters in Wyoming have landowner tags?
Wyoming Moose Hunt
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mntnguide
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Non resident or resident?... your looking at 15 years give or take as rough idea of you have zero right now. They're aren't any landowner moose tags
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LCH
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Hilltop
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You have a slim chance with zero points in several areas. To get to the magic number to have a decent shot at a tag won't be possible in a lifetime for premium areas like 38. You may be in the game for a lesser area in 20 to 30 years but there is no way to predict point creep or if Wyoming will eventually change the system like many other states have done. You would be a gob of money ahead to save for a hunt in Canada or Alaska.
wy-tex
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Random draw tags can be had with 0 PP. Apply to get your PP and you just might draw a random tag .
A percentage is set aside for a random draw not based on PP.
A percentage is set aside for a random draw not based on PP.
Hilltop
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Wy-tex is correct. In 2017 there were 6 non-resident bull tags given out spread across 5 different areas. There were a total of 1,377 applicants trying for those 6 permits. The random odds for those areas were as follows;
Area 5 1 in 83
Area 24 1 in 134
Area 25 1 in 106
Area 26 1 in 307
Area 38 1 in 641
If you want to hunt in the next 20 years, Canada or Alaska is your best bet. Never hurts to try for the Wyoming tags if you have the money to throw at the low % chance but there is no serious way to plan on a Wyoming moose hunt unless you buy a commissioner tag.
Area 5 1 in 83
Area 24 1 in 134
Area 25 1 in 106
Area 26 1 in 307
Area 38 1 in 641
If you want to hunt in the next 20 years, Canada or Alaska is your best bet. Never hurts to try for the Wyoming tags if you have the money to throw at the low % chance but there is no serious way to plan on a Wyoming moose hunt unless you buy a commissioner tag.
JimP
Administrator
I have looked at just about all the odds in all the states that offer moose hunting and the best way is to just save your money and head north to either Canada or Alaska, but the Alaskan hunts are not cheap anymore. Canada on the other hand can be had without selling your first born.
JimP
Administrator
You might look into Utah for your moose hunt. There are landowner tags available be be ready for sticker shock. The ones that I looked at were around $10,000+ just for the tag. Or with a guided hunt around $16,000.
- Jul 24, 2017
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Jim P, you are very correct on the prices of moose hunts in Utah. My wife and I did a Muley and Elk combo hunt with The R&K Hunting company almost 3 yrs ago. Moose price then for landowner tag, guided hunt was $14,500!!! Their ranch in Wyoming kills some giant moose but I'm only 37 and haven't won the lotto yet��������
I'd agree with mtnguide that it may take about 15 or maybe 20 years for a nonres. but I don't think the points are gonna get too much higher, the reason being that the vast majority of nonresidents are only looking at collecting 1 Shiras moose in their lifetime since the cost of the tag and the wait time is expensive. Residents on the other hand will start re-applying after drawing a moose tag. There are still resident tags that can't be drawn with max (22) points yet 100% of the nonres tags can be had for less than max points.
Another reason is that I believe (hope) that the moose population will start to increase in the areas where wolves will once again be considered a predator. The reduction of wolves in these areas should allow for more moose tags in the future thus increasing the likelihood of drawing a tag...Time will tell.
Another reason is that I believe (hope) that the moose population will start to increase in the areas where wolves will once again be considered a predator. The reduction of wolves in these areas should allow for more moose tags in the future thus increasing the likelihood of drawing a tag...Time will tell.
Hilltop
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There are currently 11,021 non-residents with moose preference points. With 51 available bull tags this year it would take 216 years for all of them to get a tag... Obviously not all of those people will stay in the game, some will use them on cow tags, and tag numbers will change, but to think you can start now with zero points and draw in the next 20 years isn't realistic. Even if only 25% of them stay in, it would take over 50 years for them all to get a bull tag.
Fink
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Buzzkill!
Save the money you'll spend on points, and go to Canada or Alaska, as others have said.
LCH
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- Jul 24, 2017
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Some good mathematicians on here!! I had no clue it was that hard to draw!! Now I understand why the landowner tags are so expensive
Spirit of a Hunter
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Your best chance to draw a moose tag in the lower 48 is Idaho. There is no point system and chances of drawing a tag up in the panhandle are not bad, however the panhandle is a tough hunt as far as habitat goes - thick heavily timbered country. The challenging issue for many is that one must submit all monies up front ($2,116.50). I got lucky and drew a tag this year in one the southeast units which are probably the best of all. The large amount of money required actually helps a non-resident applicant because many folks just can't afford to lock up the funds for several months. I definitely could not when I was a young man.
We all know the deal: Limited resources and time when you are young and can run up and down the mountains and then, you become older and hopefully can afford to buy that expensive tag, but do not get around the mountains like you once did. It's a darn shame.
We all know the deal: Limited resources and time when you are young and can run up and down the mountains and then, you become older and hopefully can afford to buy that expensive tag, but do not get around the mountains like you once did. It's a darn shame.
HuskyMusky
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Benny Spies drew a WY Moose tag his 1st year applying... was on 1 of his tv shows.
So anyone can get lucky, at least in units with 4 or more tags I think?
personally I'm looking at WY in a few ways...
1, I want a shiras moose,
2, I already have 10 pts
3, hopefully management will increase the moose population in coming decades
4, I could get lucky
If I were a non-res with 0 pts and really planned to jump into WY,
I'd look for units with chances in the random draw... ie not the max points, at least until I had maybe 10 plus points then consider if I wanted to try for better units vs better odds
good luck!
can save your money and book a hunt somewhere else...
So anyone can get lucky, at least in units with 4 or more tags I think?
personally I'm looking at WY in a few ways...
1, I want a shiras moose,
2, I already have 10 pts
3, hopefully management will increase the moose population in coming decades
4, I could get lucky
If I were a non-res with 0 pts and really planned to jump into WY,
I'd look for units with chances in the random draw... ie not the max points, at least until I had maybe 10 plus points then consider if I wanted to try for better units vs better odds
good luck!
can save your money and book a hunt somewhere else...
Dark Mavis
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I am one of the 11021 nonresidents in the wy moose point pool. I'm in my mid thirties and if I get one moose tag from Wyoming in my entire lifetime, I'll be very surprised. The statistics on drawing are simply terrible.
Elkwithabow
New Member
Change the math
Other that that, all the advice given by others here is 100% legit. I live here, and due to my own screwup, it took me 27 years to draw this, my first and only moose tag.
Don't know where these figures came from but in 2017, area 5 only has 25 tags available. Make that 24 because I have one of them.
Other that that, all the advice given by others here is 100% legit. I live here, and due to my own screwup, it took me 27 years to draw this, my first and only moose tag.