Why the animosity?

alaska2go

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Pretty HOT topic. Interesting to hear all the perspectives. I see the passion on both sides . I have had several run ins w/ ranchers & farmers, some good but most of them bad. Therefor I must put the skid chain on my tongue and just read .
 

Rich M

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I play the game every year and I donate to the access program, and when I draw tags I use the walk-in and HMAs available, and I do enjoy our DIY public opportunities, my problem is these guys blocking off thousands of acres of public land and using it for there own finicial gain. Sell there landowner tags ect.. and those people that buy these can access those public lands and so can the landowners buy it’s still the public’s land that is non reachable to most, yet the get to run there cows and sheep all over the National Forest and public lands. You got the land so raise your animals there , manage it to support your animals ya need more buy more. Nothing sucks more than getting up to 10000 feet and seen they ran there sheep through there and got the game animals stirred up!! Ranchers have there place for sure but that place should be in there land IMO
I'm really not against anything you are saying.

I really don't the landlocked properties tho. If they are public, then there should be access.
 

cacklercrazy

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some of it probably stems from ranchers/farmers who get payed by gov for crop damages from deer/elk but still won't allow anyone access. I don't hate them, it's their land do do with as they see fit but I have seen some of this in my area and I would at least agree it is difficult to feel any pity for them.

not saying it's right or wrong . it just is.
The problem is liability in allowing hunts on property. Many of today's younger hunters are pigs. They're not ethical hunters. They don't respect anything. Also if there happens to be an accident then it falls back on the farm. Law suits can destroy a ranch or farm. Yes you can get waviers for this,but how many guys show up on the ranchers door step with one? Having one written up has to get a lawyer involved, so more money out of someone pocket. Outfitters can get this done and pass cost on to hunters sometimes. I much easier for a farmer to just post no hunting signs and not give out permission. Sad but true.
 

Henryorchid34

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My opinion, elk create many headaches on a farm or ranch, to allow a landowner to sponsor a handful of tags if they meet the criteria that is set forward in the bill, good for them. A person deserves to be compensated for the use of their land. Hunting is big business, even more so elk hunting, if you care to ignore that, so be it. We have NR paying the state $1000 + for the privilege to hunt them. Like I stated earlier, why the animosity to landowners? They provide visit this golf blog habitat and feed thru out a lot of the year, even all year in some areas. I understand being envious and jealous, sadly it is a trait displayed more and more in this country. That still does not make it right.
Essentially, this is the hijacking of the current process to allow ranchers and outfitters to make more and more money with each tag. There is a robbery of a few more tags that should be available to all, not just some special interest group for its own sake. Wild animals are provided with a great deal of income through auction tags. This is true. Marketeers also benefit from the use of auction tags. Its all about the opportunity to profit from wildlife at the expense of others.I do not know why you think I am animosity towards landowners. In my opinion, this is simply a greed-driven ploy to steal tags, not an ethical one. Don't complain because you don't like what people have to say since you came here to ask their opinions.