Vacuum Sealers

Umpqua Hunter

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I just posted this on another forum, and though it might be helpful to you all.

There are basically two types of vacuum sealers, here is a good video that compares the features:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oCZbh77Q0g

EXTERNAL VACUUM TYPE: Examples are the Food Saver, Weston, etc.

This type of sealer sucks the air directly out of the bag, stops the vacuum, and then seals the bag. Because of the way it works, it requires specially designed vacuum bags. Because it is sucking the air directly out of the bag, the juices tend to be sucked up into the seal area as well.

Advantages:
* Lower initial cost for the machine.
* Smaller footprint, easier to store.
* Bag size only limited by sealer width.

Disadvantages:
* Bags far more expensive. These machines need a special bag with a waffle type pattern embossed in the bag to be able to work properly. Those bags are much more costly.
* Not good for vacuuming liquids or wet product.
* Typically not designed for continuous use.

VACUUM CHAMBER TYPE: In this type, you place the bag inside a chamber and the entire chamber vacuums down, the sealer triggers, and a couple seconds later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5ztvIZhQFA

Advantages:
* This is what is used by businesses who do vacuum sealing for a living.
* Higher vacuum can be achieved.
* You can vacuum seal liquids like soups.
* Since the whole vacuum chamber is being evacuated, liquid is not being sucked up into the seal, which is the main reason seals fail.
* Far more reliable seals. Very few bags leak which can lead to ruined/freezer burned food. Damaged food means lost money.
* The bags used for this are a more typical type plastic bag, so bags are FAR cheaper, typically a 1/10th of the price of the other type. Because of the low cost of the bags, we often use ours to repackage things like extra food and leftovers. You can also buy bulk meats, repackage and save $.
* You can typically use heavier plastic bags, like 4 mil bags. Some even seal retort type bags.
* Longer life, commercial grade units. The most reliable are those with an oil bathed vacuum pump.
* Designed for continuous use.
* Vacuuming cycle can be customized on many units (like on the VacMaster VP215)

Disadvantages:
* Higher upfront cost for the machine
* Larger footprint
* Bag size limited to what fits in the chamber.


We personally went with the VacMaster VP215. After a few years of use, the bags themselves will pay to difference of the machine. After using this chamber type sealer (oil bathed vacuum pump), I would never switch back. We keep it set-up in our pantry and vacuum seal things all the time. It is quick, cheap to use and reliable. If you do get the external vacuum type, save some heart ache and get something quality like a Weston.

Remember, after a few hundred bags, the difference in bag price, bags thrown away due to bad seals, and lost/damaged/freezer burned food (due to bad seals) will pay the difference between the lower priced and higher priced machines.
 

Ikeepitcold

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I use the ol first one. Works well for me. A trick I use when sealing up meat that I have in a marinade is I put a rolled up paper towel at the top of the bag so soak up the liquid before is gets sucked out.
 

tim

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my wife does the vacuum sealing in our home. one of the things I have noticed is, that air tends to get in the bags, yet the seal looks all the way across? any ideas?

thanks
 

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Over the years I tried 4 or 5 different models of the Food Saver brand, and wasn't real happy with any of them.

Then I bought the Cabela's commercial grade Vacuum Sealer about 8 or 10 years ago, it is a awesome sealer.
I buy bags on EBay or where ever I find them cheapest.

Kevin
 

Umpqua Hunter

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Over the years I tried 4 or 5 different models of the Food Saver brand, and wasn't real happy with any of them.

Then I bought the Cabela's commercial grade Vacuum Sealer about 8 or 10 years ago, it is a awesome sealer.
I buy bags on EBay or where ever I find them cheapest.

Kevin
I believe the Cabela's commercial grade is a Weston, and I believe you an save money actually buying the Weston.
 

OregonJim

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my wife does the vacuum sealing in our home. one of the things I have noticed is, that air tends to get in the bags, yet the seal looks all the way across? any ideas?

thanks
I've had the same problem occasionally on moist stuff.
Two things that have worked for me.

I generally place the meat, fish, etc in the bag then I fold up the end and clip it closed.
I freeze the contents THEN I vacuum seal it the next day.
This works really good on soup and chili.

The other tactic I use is I cut the bags a little big. If a bag doesn't get a good vacuum seal I cut a corner and reseal with the contents frozen. I've gotten in the habit of checking my sealed bags a few days after sealing just to make sure they sealed with a good vacuum.

I think I'll be going with the other option next time around!!!!!
 

buckykm1

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I believe the Cabela's commercial grade is a Weston, and I believe you an save money actually buying the Weston.

Yep, I think so too, at-least they look about the same.
I got a pretty good deal when I bought mine, I think it was when they were doing a Model change ?.
I bought mine for $350.00

Kevin
 

Sawfish

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my wife does the vacuum sealing in our home. one of the things I have noticed is, that air tends to get in the bags, yet the seal looks all the way across? any ideas?

thanks
If you are using heavy duty bags, you need to make two seals on each end. This is because the thicker material is not as pliable as the cheaper standard stuff. Making the extra seal, and taking the time to be sure the surfaces are flat, and the waffle side is down before sealing will keep your bags sealed. The information about making two seals is on the packages of HD bags, but no one reads it.
 

jindydiver

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I love my vacuum sealer, it means I can pack my meat away in meal size lots if I like and I can get plenty of time in the freezer out of them. No more sweating over whether I forgot something at the bottom of the freezer, it will still be good when I find it.
Here's two and a half fallow deer ready for the freezer...
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We also take an inverter and the vac packer with us when we go for a few days, it means we can do heaps of the butchering on site and just throw the meat in the ice slurry in the esky. Very handy when you are whacking a bunch of them...
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huntwhenican

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3 food savers later I was kicking myself for not buying a chamber vac. I bought the VP215 and have never looked back. I seal a lot of fish as well and never worry about moisture. I don't have bags leak, I don't have to double seal and I can seal soups, stews and water/ice bags. Try that with the external sealers.
 

Gr8bawana

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I think one of the problems people have with their vacum sealers is not the vacum sealer itself but the bags they use. Buying the cheapest bags is not the way to go because the are thinner than the more expensive ones. I have frozen stuff for over a year and never had any air leaks or freezer burn. All it takes is a microscpic hole and the bag has failed.
 

Againstthewind

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After some of the other conversations on here, I think now I know what to get my wife for Christmas. She loves gifts like vacuum sealers, microwaves, blenders, grinders, :eek:.