Stone glacier vs Kuiu packs
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DryFlyGuy
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There is a review being done on these two manufacturer's packs on another forum. I believe it is the Terminus vs. the DT1 on a bikini frame.
DISCLAIMER!!! - This is not a production pack so please don't call Aron or Angie at Kifaru and flip out that you haven't gotten your new pack yet. This is Aron's prototype pack and ONLY a loaner for a couple weeks for me to try it out and let you guys know my thoughts.
So I was over at Kifaru yesterday and going over this pack with Aron and let me tell you this new bikini frame is top notch in every way. Just one day of use but here are my thoughts so far. I'm not going to go into a detailed DT2 review because everyone by now should have a really good idea on how the pack looks and the features associated with it.
I can sum this frame with one word = COMFORTBALE!!
Craftsmanship - Being a prototype it’s a little bit different then the production packs on the webbing. The webbing on this pack is 1" and production is 3/4". As with everything from Kifaru, the stitching and craftsmanship on the new frame are second to none. Double and even triple stitched in every "stress" area on the frame. It’s going to last a lifetime, no doubt. The black pad lining is very soft and no possible abrasive points I can feel or even see.
Fit - Modular is an understatement. There is over 8 inches of adjustability in the frame so you can really fit the frame to you no matter what body type or torso length. There are more attachment points then one man knows what to do with to be honest. About 20 different points. This goes with Kifaru's theme of, they won't phase out any pack or frame. You have so many options on this frame to attach different packs and load carriers its crazy. Honestly, on mine (when I get it) I might cut a few off. Well the fit. Like I said, it’s beyond comfortable and how the bikini frame kind of molds to your back is impressive. The padding and material around the shoulder/back pads is a little loose and I wasn’t really too sure on how that would feel because of the small amount of give but once I wore it around I realized it’s made that way to help the frame and pack move with you instead of being rigid. The frame is hard to describe as a true feel but it’s almost between the normal 2 stay Timberline and the sheet Duplex. It’s flexible enough to mold to your back but at the same time rigid enough to provide unlimited support.
First Trip – I loaded it up this morning with around 35lbs and did a quick 3 mile loop to see how it felt. Without a doubt its way more comfortable then the duplex with 35lbs in it and I can’t repeat myself enough on comfort. The waist belt, being thin, molds to the hip bone like it should and the normal back stays that in the frame are a perfect fit for me. I didn’t have one issue with the pack sliding down or it needing any readjustment during the 3 miles. The power pull waist belt held snug even when I jogged for a dozen yards or so.
Weight – At 35lbs it was a dream pack that’s for sure. I’m going to do more trips with heavier weights over the next week or so and I’ll post how those weights felt as well. One thing I really liked about the frame that kind of was a shock. The side to side stability of it was impressive. With the pack synched down you can seriously swing back and forth and the pack isn’t rotating off your back or hell, even really sliding around much. Last night, I did however load up 83lbs per my scale, and walked just around the block (got some funny looks). It’s like Aron says, the feel after about 50lbs or so feels very similar to the Duplex. The flexibility is there still but the frame real turns load carrying tank. Kifaru did an amazing job on this frame. I will update though when I get another trip with it.
Kryptek Highlander– Awesome camo! Enough said
Any questions or if you want different pics or configurations let me know. PM me or call 480-326-9009 if you want too
Joe
DryFlyGuy
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Drhorsepower
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I bought the 4800, threw on a lid and a few pouches. Can't beat the weight/comfort!
Bitterroot Bulls
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Regarding Kifaru, I strongly suggest you look at the High Camp ahead of the KU5200. The High Camp/ Bikini is more versatile and is made of more durable 500D cordura.
Shaun
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Drhorsepower
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Not yet rock, mid April I believe is the eta.
X3 on highcamp over Ku. It is also very modular with other kifaru product while the Ku series you are limited to what is in the Ku lineup.
DryFlyGuy
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Drhorsepower
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When is your ship date?
I have a month and a half until I have to explain to my wife why there is a new pack on the front porch. Eeekkk
Drhorsepower
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No doubt on bikini frame. It was explained to me it is 95% of what a duplex timberline is. But this is where the true weight savings comes into play. I have a highcamp on order but i question my judgement of not going with a dt1 or 2. Just more organization.
I'm a small guy and the bikini can probably handle twice of what I can.
I'm a small guy and the bikini can probably handle twice of what I can.
DryFlyGuy
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I went with the DT1 on the bikini frame. I added a couple of accessories. Now the waiting game until my pack shows up! I haven't received a ship date, but Aron did give me an ETA when I was talking with him on the phone.
I opted to go with the foliage for color. The highlander camo just wasn't worth the extra money to me.
By the time I added the pockets I wanted to the highcamp bag, I was spending more money and had no real weight savings over the DT1. Really, the only thing I would have gotten with the highcamp configured how I had it would have been more cubic inches. I thought the likelihood of a scenario where 8000ci would have been just enough and 7200ci wouldn't cut it was very low. Be that as it may, I can always add pockets or pods to my bag if really necessary.
I did go with a grab-it kit and the gen.2 hanging meat bag.
I hope my pack purchasing days are coming to an end. I said the same thing about my binocular purchasing days recently as well. #confessionsofagearqueen
I opted to go with the foliage for color. The highlander camo just wasn't worth the extra money to me.
By the time I added the pockets I wanted to the highcamp bag, I was spending more money and had no real weight savings over the DT1. Really, the only thing I would have gotten with the highcamp configured how I had it would have been more cubic inches. I thought the likelihood of a scenario where 8000ci would have been just enough and 7200ci wouldn't cut it was very low. Be that as it may, I can always add pockets or pods to my bag if really necessary.
I did go with a grab-it kit and the gen.2 hanging meat bag.
I hope my pack purchasing days are coming to an end. I said the same thing about my binocular purchasing days recently as well. #confessionsofagearqueen
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