Sport Killing

[WY ME]

This was just posted on the website http://buckrail.com/162711069255532544/wyoming-wolves-kill-19-elk-near-bondurant-in-suspected-surplus-killing a few hours ago. These government sponsored terrorists killed 19 elk one night on a feedground in Bondurant, WY and left them lay. Wanton waste.

 

[Gr8bawana]

Government sponsored terrorists? Please elaborate.

 

[WapitiBob]

WY had the chance to join MT and ID on the Simpson/Tester Rider and chose a different path. Now you're living with the consequences.

 

[1shot7mm]

That is why I quit hunting WY. No tags, no big game, nothing but bears and wolves!!!!

 

[Slugz]

According to Mike Jimenez, the Northern Rocky Mountain Wolf Coordinator for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, surplus killings are extremely rare for wolves.
"By and large, wolves don't kill for sport," said Jimenez. "We did an eight year study and we looked at elk feedgrounds. What we found is that generally wolves did not kill what they did not eat."

Cut and paste from the article. I find this utterly hilarious. An eight year study on feedgrounds? Generally? Its a shame. Talk to the ranchers, hunters in the back country.......they tend to describe the killing and things not being eaten differently. SSS

 

[WY ME]

Government sponsored terrorists? Please elaborate.

How about ..."Government sponsored poachers"

 

[Gr8bawana]

Ah, ok the link wasn't working when I clicked on it last night. Now I understand.

 

[6mm Remington]

Wolves need to be a part of the landscape but their numbers need to be controlled by hunting and trapping and their numbers kept in balance with other species. These decisions need to be made by professional wildlife biologists and not some clown sitting behind a desk who thinks he/she know about everything wild.

David

Here is an incident from Montana a few years ago.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2009/aug/28/wolves-kill-120-sheep-near-dillon-mont/

 

[WY ME]

Here is an incident from Montana a few years ago.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2009/aug/28/wolves-kill-120-sheep-near-dillon-mont/

Unfortunately this occurs much too often. In 2013 some wolves killed 176 sheep in one night in eastern Idaho. I have a friend who did some wolf damage control in northern MN some 30 years ago. He said the wolves did similar mass killings up there as well.

 

[Slugz]

They are predators and need to be managed as such.....there is a reason homesteaders shot them all in the early push out west many moons ago.

 

[RICMIC]

The article also stated that the wolf pack has been killing one or two elk a day. On a four month feeding season, that would be 120 to 240 elk. Many of the feedgrounds don't even have that many elk in them, and who do you suppose pays for the feeding? The anti hunters say we shouldn't be feeding elk at all since it is unnatural, but since they built their towns and ranchettes in the winter range and are unwilling to return them to their natural state there aren't many other options.

 

[WY ME]

The article also stated that the wolf pack has been killing one or two elk a day. On a four month feeding season, that would be 120 to 240 elk. Many of the feedgrounds don't even have that many elk in them, and who do you suppose pays for the feeding? The anti hunters say we shouldn't be feeding elk at all since it is unnatural, but since they built their towns and ranchettes in the winter range and are unwilling to return them to their natural state there aren't many other options.

That's spot on about the daily attack on the elk. In regards to the feeding, the Nat'l Elk Refuge is in the process of phasing out feeding even though they know the elk are gonna starve.

"Elk need to starve"....That is a direct quote from a USFWS wildlife biologist who works on the refuge. The USFWS has installed a cattle guard on the refuge road because they know the elk are gonna be hungry and will try to get into Jackson to find some food. The elk will eventually move to the local ranches for something to eat or face starvation. They will then spread brucellosis to the cattle through aborted fetuses and will also be a traffic hazard on the roads and highways. The wolves have already caused elk to leave state feedgrounds at night and cause traffic accidents. It's a mess.

 

[RICMIC]

Now I'm really sick. I just got off the phone with the outfitter that I am booked for an elk hunt in 2017. This feedground is for the elk herd that I will be hunting. I've recruited five other hunters, four of whom have never elk hunted before. I moved the hunt from another area because of wolf predation. This is exactly what the wolf supporters/anti hunters want. If I lived out there I think I know what I would be doing this winter. SSS

 

[ceby7]

They are predators and need to be managed as such.....there is a reason homesteaders shot them all in the early push out west many moons ago.

Those same homesteaders also damn near eliminated all the buffalo, grizzlies, elk, deer and antelope. There was a lot of wrong done in those days that we've been trying to fix for decades. Everything has its place and it's OUR responsibility to make sure we manage the resource not only for our interests but future generations as well; with an emphasis on the future.

 

[Elkoholic307]

If I lived out there I think I know what I would be doing this winter. SSS

Until you get caught then all your hunting plans will be cancelled for you.

 

[packmule]

According to Mike Jimenez, the Northern Rocky Mountain Wolf Coordinator for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, surplus killings are extremely rare for wolves.
"By and large, wolves don't kill for sport," said Jimenez. "We did an eight year study and we looked at elk feedgrounds. What we found is that generally wolves did not kill what they did not eat."

Cut and paste from the article. I find this utterly hilarious. An eight year study on feedgrounds? Generally? Its a shame. Talk to the ranchers, hunters in the back country.......they tend to describe the killing and things not being eaten differently. SSS

SMH, they run stuff for sport, this time of year that results in killing for sport.

 

[Musket Man]

WY had the chance to join MT and ID on the Simpson/Tester Rider and chose a different path. Now you're living with the consequences.

That rider is a small band aid in a huge problem it cant even begin to solve. All 3 states and now some surrounding states are living with the consequences of the usfws introducing wolves.

 

[RICMIC]

Until you get caught then all your hunting plans will be cancelled for you.

Yeah I know...talk is cheap. I was a cop for 30 years and never broke a law that I knew of (other than speeding). I have 3,000 wolves living all around me in NE MN, and have never shot one. I've seen guys with multiple felonies get off with probation, but I suppose killing a wolf would get you the chair.

 

[WapitiBob]

That rider is a small band aid in a huge problem it cant even begin to solve. All 3 states and now some surrounding states are living with the consequences of the usfws introducing wolves.

At least MT and ID are hunting wolves; their only real opportunity at management. WY will be sitting on the sidelines for years.

 

[Horsenhike]

At least MT and ID are hunting wolves; their only real opportunity at management. WY will be sitting on the sidelines for years.

Can you explain this a little, please?