Should drones be legal?

Knappy

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Great question. I believe it all boils down to morals and ethics. I think most of us are on the same page when it comes to our decisions on their use. Some people will consider using them cheating and unethical. Others will treat UAV/UAS's as just another tool to use, no more different than using the trail camera, the scope on your rifle or a GPS. After all, these are tools that are not REQUIRED for hunting but they sure make it better.

Right or wrong? I don't know. I'm on the fence and I can see both sides. Here is why... I work with the US Air Force Global Hawk. Google it if you're unfamiliar with it. I have an understanding and appreciation for the use of such vehicles that most don't realize. I see applications and niches that could be met with these tools. Whether you want it or not, the future of aviation is unmanned!! Just because someone doesn't like computers doesn't mean that the computer industry is going to slow down or go away. Same with UAVs (I don't like the word drones.) There are people and companies out there right now that are making these vehicles do some pretty impressive stuff. Hate them all you want, but the technology is growing fast!

Do I think they should be used for hunting? No! I like to hunt, not just go out and kill. I feel accomplished when I have worked hard, scouted hard and hunted hard to harvest an animal. Hell, even if I don't harvest an animal, I feel good about hunting. But even if I don't think people should use them, there will be a demand for them! This is where my entrepreneur side of my brain kicks in and says, "hmm, if people want them, I want to run the business that they come to for help." If you haven't heard, Game and Fish Departments are already using UAVs to track animals, observe forest fires, SAR, ect. The use of these unmanned vehicles are numerous and could really benefit a lot of people. The problem is, where do you draw the line and say, you can use them for this but not for that?

The thing that really sucks, PETA is already using them to harass hunters and "watch" them to make sure they are not doing anything "illegal." I can see Game Wardens using them for the same purposes. Just like anything else in life... the UAV is a TOOL and can be used for good or bad. Just like our self defense pistol we use at the house. It can be used for good or bad. The bottom line is... they are NOT going away and you will see great capabilities for them in our lifetime.
 

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The thing that really sucks, PETA is already using them to harass hunters and "watch" them to make sure they are not doing anything "illegal." I can see Game Wardens using them for the same purposes. Just like anything else in life... the UAV is a TOOL and can be used for good or bad. Just like our self defense pistol we use at the house. It can be used for good or bad. The bottom line is... they are NOT going away and you will see great capabilities for them in our lifetime.
Very well thought out...I used to work for Northrop, retired 15 years ago when Global Hawk was in it's infancy. You are very correct about having to deal with them in the future. The technology is here and available and getting cheaper every year.

I worked of some of the early UAV concepts, especially when they had stealth technology specified. They have had quantum leaps in technology since I retired. The same applies to the imaging systems used. We have seen just a small part of whats coming down the pipeline!
 
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shootbrownelk

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Just my opinion, but seems way over the line to me! I'm a little old school as far as technology though! I don't have the money to afford all that cool stuff,so I'm trying to drag everybody back to my level:)
gonhunting, if you're a "Little Old School" as far as technology goes, then I'm "No School". I think the drones would take all the fun and accomplishment out of finding that Elk herd, that 15" antelope, or where that 30" Mule deer is bedded. Just my way of thinking.
 

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gonhunting, if you're a "Little Old School" as far as technology goes, then I'm "No School". I think the drones would take all the fun and accomplishment out of finding that Elk herd, that 15" antelope, or where that 30" Mule deer is bedded. Just my way of thinking.
Amen Brother, Amen!!! That makes two of us!
 

mnhoundman

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It would be something to make people lazier. Imo we already have enough technology in hunting, like trail cam, plot watcher, gps with boundaries marked, etc. All the range finders built into bumps, the list goes on. Could you imagine what the poachers could do with a drone? Scary thought!!
 

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Anybody catch the segment on drones on 60 Minutes on CBS last Sunday night? There are many more out there than I would have ever imagined and the industry will be in the billions and employ a lot of people the way it sounds.
 

shootbrownelk

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Thanks Musket, very entertaining links. Anyone have any drone recipes they'd like to share? They look like they'd be a blast to take down, when the morning flight of ducks is over.
 

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I was surprised to see how cheap they are... I think of all the possible poor uses for these and all the regulations that will have to follow. Thanks Musket for posting those links.
 

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Those are pretty cool links. I agree that the drones start to take the hunt out of it. I also agree that it is a legitimate tool. Hunting is big business. Whatever can get the extra edge you need will sell. For me, like many others it sounds like, getting out in the woods and testing my skills and knowledge against the animal and trying to improve my skills is what it is all about. I am not sure where exactly to draw the line on technology and the tools. Drones, I am pretty sure would not improve my skills in the wilderness. Forget trying to read sign, scouting, etc. just search and destroy. I don't want to use a stone arrowhead with a homemade bow, but I drones I think are over the line for me. GPS and google earth and stuff has become an essential part of the gear, and sometimes I think that is over the line. GPS seems to really annoy me lately, and I am not that old. What happened to being able to read a map and compass and use landmarks and just being smart and pay attention to where you are going. I am not an expert woodsman by any means, and GPS is certainly a tool that could potentially save your life, so I carry one. I have a double standard on many things. If people would just realize that I am right even when I contradict myself ...
 

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Those are pretty cool links. I agree that the drones start to take the hunt out of it. I also agree that it is a legitimate tool. Hunting is big business. Whatever can get the extra edge you need will sell. For me, like many others it sounds like, getting out in the woods and testing my skills and knowledge against the animal and trying to improve my skills is what it is all about. I am not sure where exactly to draw the line on technology and the tools. Drones, I am pretty sure would not improve my skills in the wilderness. Forget trying to read sign, scouting, etc. just search and destroy. I don't want to use a stone arrowhead with a homemade bow, but I drones I think are over the line for me. GPS and google earth and stuff has become an essential part of the gear, and sometimes I think that is over the line. GPS seems to really annoy me lately, and I am not that old. What happened to being able to read a map and compass and use landmarks and just being smart and pay attention to where you are going. I am not an expert woodsman by any means, and GPS is certainly a tool that could potentially save your life, so I carry one. I have a double standard on many things. If people would just realize that I am right even when I contradict myself ...
I agree with almost everything you have here. The one item I do believe in and use is the GPS with a land ownership chip . It is way too hard in a lot of cases to really know exactly where you are and who really own the land you are planning to hunt and how to access it. This IMHO is the one real benefit of a GPS I use. It is especially valuable where I live as there is lots of BLM that is ALMOST surrounded by private land that landowners try and lock up with illegal posting, fences, locked gates, etc.
 
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I don't think drones should be used for scouting or hunting. Our game herds deserve more respect than that. The great thing about some country is it's just darned hard to get into and that's part of what helps critters get big . . . At a time when tags are becoming harder to get (partially due to our increased efficiency as hunters), there should be no argument over this sort of thing. I applaud B&C and CO for banning the use of drones. Get off you lazy azz and enjoy hunting/scouting as it should be enjoyed. You wanna cheat head over to Vegas . . . I don't know how you can put GPS units in the same category as a drone. They both have a battery?
 
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Againstthewind

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Yeah those landowner chips are very handy, I have run into areas where there is no fence, so signs, looked like BLM on an older map, but it turned out to be private and after that I went out and got the chip. Hopefully drones don't get to be as commonplace as the GPS.

I wasn't putting GPS in the same category I was just one of those deals where I got off on a tangent. What annoys me about GPS is that people tend to rely on them to find their way in the mountains. I understand that us flatlanders don't have the best sense of direction, but I have seen people walk off through the most dense bush and steepest route and walk in a complete circle because that is where the GPS said to go. It is a pet peeve of mine and probably way off topic. It seems that GPS has replaced having a plan and a direction of travel mapped out. In that situation it might be more of a danger because someone, even a resident, in a wilderness type area could really get themselves lost if they had to rely completely on the GPS and no other outdoor skills. It seems to be the direction things are heading with new technologies.
 
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PlainsHunter

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No. They shouldn't be legal. To me it seems more like an assassination of an animal rather than hunting of an animal. What's next, jet pack scouting and hunting?

My 2 cents
 

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The Boone and Crockett club has recently barred any animal taken with the aid of a drone from being included in the record book.

Alaska banned their use also!