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Colorado Cowboy

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I sure must be out of the loop as this thread is the first I've ever heard about selling GPS locations of trophy animals. What's preventing the seller from selling one location to 20 or 30 buyers? Sounds to me like a shyster used car salesman.

I personally think it is unethical (both buying and selling), but there are lots of unethical people out there, hunters included. Things sure have changed a lot in my 65 years of big game hunting and all not for the better!
 
Gr8bawana

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I wonder if the GPS sellers have a money back guarantee if you don't the animal who's location you paid for?
 
mntnguide

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BuzzH said:
Then where are the good half of outfitters that don't agree with WOGA during the Legislative session? Where are they during interim meetings? Where are they at public land rallies? Where are they at the commission meetings?...they aren't there, ever.

If the other outfitters aren't actively opposing some of the crap that WOGA is trying to pass at the commission and legislative level, then they're condoning it. Simple as that.

If outfitters don't like the bum wrap that WOGA is giving them all, then make some changes.

I don't condone poaching or poachers...nor will you see me say nothing when I see it happen, or not push for more stringent fines, etc.

Yet, never a peep from the "good outfitters" while WOGA lobbies for things that you and I both know are damaging to resident and non resident DIY hunters.

Sometimes what is NOT said, is just as important as what is...and actions, or lack there-of, matter.
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Not trying to argue with you Buzz, even though you always seem to on any thread your in.. just stating a fact. Barely half the outfitters are part of WYOGA.. and why do they not want to take a stand and fight?..i don't know, maybe because politics and arguing are something you enjoy, but every outfitter I've ever worked for doesn't, and would rather be in the mountains trying to make a living. To each their own.

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mntnguide said:
Not trying to argue with you Buzz, even though you always seem to on any thread your in.. just stating a fact. Barely half the outfitters are part of WYOGA.. and why do they not want to take a stand and fight?..i don't know, maybe because politics and arguing are something you enjoy, but every outfitter I've ever worked for doesn't, and would rather be in the mountains trying to make a living. To each their own.

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I can see Buzz's point but don't agree with his first statement. There are some great guys out there who happen to be outfitters. One in particular that I worked for didn't fight because he never felt his voice was heard. He has since retired. Not saying I agree with that but I know it to be fact.
 
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mntnguide said:
Not trying to argue with you Buzz, even though you always seem to on any thread your in.. just stating a fact. Barely half the outfitters are part of WYOGA.. and why do they not want to take a stand and fight?..i don't know, maybe because politics and arguing are something you enjoy, but every outfitter I've ever worked for doesn't, and would rather be in the mountains trying to make a living. To each their own.

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The Outfitters not speaking up are just trying not to ruffle feathers of the Majority. Just like politicians....they go along to get along.
 
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shootbrownelk said:
The Outfitters not speaking up are just trying not to ruffle feathers of the Majority. Just like politicians....they go along to get along.
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I'd imagine they just want everyone to mind their own business and maybe all the bs will go away on its own. You can pick any state across the US and run into the same thing.
 
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I think this is no different then hunters placing game cameras all over the place. The next logical step in the evolution of laziness was to go from game camera to buying gps cordinates. I assume next people will be trying to justify their drone with inferred tracking.
 
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drifli said:
I think this is no different then hunters placing game cameras all over the place. The next logical step in the evolution of laziness was to go from game camera to buying gps cordinates. I assume next people will be trying to justify their drone with inferred tracking.
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I think the drone thing has already been knocked down...at least it was in Indiana.
 
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I'm opposed to the personal use of drones for hunting or scouting or for viewing or photographing wildlife. Leave the animals alone. View or hunt them them on foot or horseback. People will always want to get closer for a better view or pic and there is too much potential for harassment or changing behavior, like driving them.

The good and bad of using drones:

The first story is a guy being charged with stampeding elk by using a drone. No doubt he was too close or wanting to drive them like an unscrupulous hunter or poacher might want to do.

http://www.gameandfishmag.com/conservation-politics/drone-flyer-fined-for-causing-stampede-at-national-elk-refuge/

The second is that the Oregon DFW is using them for doing elk surveys, which I'm sure cuts the cost dramatically as compared with helicopter rental and may be more accurate.

http://www.gameandfishmag.com/west-coast/oregon/agency-uses-drones-as-part-of-elk-survey/
 
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Not going to fall on a sword over this bill either way.

I don't like the idea of selling scouting packages, but I don't really like the essentially unfettered number of outfitters in Wyoming either.

If the bill passes, great, stop the further exploitation of WY's wildlife.

If the bill doesn't pass, great, selling the scouting packages probably keeps a few people from hiring outfitters.

If I had my way, I'd make the scouting services illegal and reduce the number of outfitters by about 50%.

Just not going to spend a lot of time on this issue during the session.
 
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BuzzH said:
Not going to fall on a sword over this bill either way.

I don't like the idea of selling scouting packages, but I don't really like the essentially unfettered number of outfitters in Wyoming either.

If the bill passes, great, stop the further exploitation of WY's wildlife.

If the bill doesn't pass, great, selling the scouting packages probably keeps a few people from hiring outfitters.

If I had my way, I'd make the scouting services illegal and reduce the number of outfitters by about 50%.

Just not going to spend a lot of time on this issue during the session.
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Reduce the number of outfitters by 50%?!?!

Blasphemy! lol
 
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