Republican Party pushing hard to get rid of our public lands

highplainsdrifter

Very Active Member
May 4, 2011
703
128
Wyoming
I don't really struggle to much with who to vote for in this case. it is really very simple this time.
if HILLERY is elected, the DEMS WILL CERTAINLY try to take our guns (and she will succeed through the scotus judges she will get to appoint) and by doing so take every other right we enjoy. while if a repub(TRUMP) is elected it will not CERTAINLY happen , but merely PROBABLY , happen.
Wouldn't it be better to have a Republican Party that would protect our guns and our federal land? Let's push them in that direction.
 

kidoggy

Veteran member
Apr 23, 2016
9,855
10,861
58
idaho
that would be ideal. the teaparty tried but sold out and stalled. people are merely getting what they want.

health of a nation, is measured,by health of it's church. when a population embraces every vile thing, so does it's leaders.

I have learned that you can seldom push folks where they don't want to go.
god knows, my congressmen,get tired of hearing from me. as do most of my friends and family.
 
Last edited:

highplainsdrifter

Very Active Member
May 4, 2011
703
128
Wyoming
that would be ideal. the teaparty tried but sold out and stalled. people are merely getting what they want.

health of a nation, is measured,by health of it's church. when a population embraces every vile thing, so does it's leaders.

I have learned that you can seldom push folks where they don't want to go.
god knows, my congressmen,get tired of hearing from me. as do most of my friends and family.
I agree. It will be a tough push. That's why we need sportsmen to unite. Many of us are used to packing elk for miles, crawling through cactus for antelope, fighting winter weather while deer hunting, etc. We need people who don't have the word "quit" in their vocabulary. Our federal lands may depend on it.

I suggest that eliminating the caucus system be a main goal. It favors party insiders and disenfranchises those who don't have the time/motivation to spend hours banging their heads against the wall in a public meeting. A statewide primary election system where everyone has an equal opportunity to express their opinion at the ballot box would very likely be more representative of Republicans in general (and delegates should be awarded in proportion to election results). I don't know about Idaho, but Wyoming and Colorado are BAD in this regard. In those states (and I'm sure there are others) the caucus system rules the roost and STRONGLY favors political insiders. Be prepared for a tough battle, because the party insiders will fight this tooth and nail. Right now they have lots of power, and they won't want to give it up.
 

Colorado Cowboy

Super Moderator
Jun 8, 2011
8,328
4,716
83
Dolores, Colorado
I suggest that eliminating the caucus system be a main goal. It favors party insiders and disenfranchises those who don't have the time/motivation to spend hours banging their heads against the wall in a public meeting. A statewide primary election system where everyone has an equal opportunity to express their opinion at the ballot box would very likely be more representative of Republicans in general (and delegates should be awarded in proportion to election results). I don't know about Idaho, but Wyoming and Colorado are BAD in this regard. In those states (and I'm sure there are others) the caucus system rules the roost and STRONGLY favors political insiders. Be prepared for a tough battle, because the party insiders will fight this tooth and nail. Right now they have lots of power, and they won't want to give it up.
You are right my friend. The caucus system here in Colorado sucks..............period.
 

ScottR

Eastmans' Staff / Moderator
Staff member
Feb 3, 2014
7,940
2,820
www.eastmans.com
When Davis Allen sent that piece over I was very happy with it. He addressed a couple of things no one wants to talk about with this. What got us to the point that people don't like the federal management? And what is the state run management plan if land were transferred?

If we address the first question I highly doubt we even have to talk about the second.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

kidoggy

Veteran member
Apr 23, 2016
9,855
10,861
58
idaho
which is why I have zero doubt we will lose them in the end. don't misunderstand. just because I know we won't win doesn't mean I think we shouldn't fight.
I am simply a realist and realize that a population lacking any semblance of common sense is incapable of coming up with any sort of common sense plan.
 

[email protected]

New Member
Sep 9, 2016
4
0
History has shown the great majority of states sell off the land to help balance their budget. You need to keep in mind that politicians will do what helps them short term, as opposed to later when they're not in office doesn't concern them.
 

kidoggy

Veteran member
Apr 23, 2016
9,855
10,861
58
idaho
history has shown ,nations do the same thing. ever here of the Louisianna purchase?HOW DID WE AQUIRE ALASKA?
the US has a pretty massive debt looming over it. and it's just getting larger an larger.anyone think selling land ain't gonna become an option is silly.


those who have access to private land , generally enjoy better hunting opportunities then those who have to fight the masses on public. so the solution is , buy as much land as you can while you can or make friends with someone who was smart enough to do so.it is all going to be sold off eventually. perhaps not this generation but most certainly the next. get it while it can be got.
 
Last edited:

Colorado Cowboy

Super Moderator
Jun 8, 2011
8,328
4,716
83
Dolores, Colorado
history has shown ,nations do the same thing. ever here of the Louisianna purchase?HOW DID WE AQUIRE ALASKA?
the US has a pretty massive debt looming over it. and it's just getting larger an larger.anyone think selling land ain't gonna become an option is silly.


those who have access to private land , generally enjoy better hunting opportunities then those who have to fight the masses on public. so the solution is , buy as much land as you can while you can or make friends with someone who was smart enough to do so.it is all going to be sold off eventually. perhaps not this generation but most certainly the next. get it while it can be got.
So the answer is to become a nation like the State of Texas where unless you are a landowner, you pay to play! I think not. We must protect our public land from being gobbled up by greedy people with lots of money and want to make more at our expense.
 

kidoggy

Veteran member
Apr 23, 2016
9,855
10,861
58
idaho
not saying it is ideal but is inevitable. it will be the future. it may be possible to delay it a bit and trying to do so is commendable but it will be the future. somehow I doubt those opposed to it would still be opposed if they were the land owner getting payed by the player.
 

Colorado Cowboy

Super Moderator
Jun 8, 2011
8,328
4,716
83
Dolores, Colorado
somehow I doubt those opposed to it would still be opposed if they were the land owner getting payed by the player.
Unfortunately most of us aren't going to be getting paided for others to play on our property.

The way to stop this is to elect representatives who reflect our views, not an impossible task.