Red Rock Precision lack of ethics

laxwyo

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I have no problem with a guy that can make a 800 yd shot taking a 800 yd shot if he can't get any closer and he's closer to animal than any other hunter. I have a problem with taking 800 yd shot just to do it or to out compete someone making a stalk.
 

25contender

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First off I have no problem with those taking long shots.Sniping a animal from another by shooting past them is just downright wrong. That being said I have always been in the camp of getting closer to the game is by far a bigger challenge and accomplishment than taking a animal with a long shot.This is why I took up bow-hunting 30 years ago and never looked back. Just the thought and challenge of being able to get so close has been the glue that keeps a bow in my hand.
 
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Granby guy

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For what it's worth I don't agree with long range shooting at animals for a couple of reasons. First, I personally would not want to instill in my kids the idea that it's ok to take a long shot if you can't get any closer. I would rather teach them how to get closer and make a quality close range shot opposed to setting them up with a long range gun and allowing them to start sniping game. Part of what makes some hunts so memorable are the ones that got away. Not missed, just couldn't get close enough for the shot. I wouldn't be able to take much pride in the hunt if I killed them at 800-1,000 yards. Would it be a good shot. Yes. Would it be a good hunt? Not in my opinion. I think that bragging rights over shooting long distances is best left at the range.
Second, tag quotas are based off of historic success rates and include a percentage for wounded animals. If people start thinking that it is ok to start shooting animals out past 400 yards then success rates would increase, wounding loss would increase, but tag quotas would have to be cut, resulting in a net loss of opportunity. I'm not saying that animals don't get wounded each year at ranges under 400 yards but a shot under 400 yards is certainly better than a shot over 400 yards and a shot under 100 yards is even better yet. There are too many factors that come into play when shooting long distances in the mountains and if anyone is interested in learning more about these should look into taking a micro meteorology class. There is some interesting stuff discussed in those and thermals is certainly one of them.
 

Gr8bawana

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Personally I like to "hunt" not just shoot at an animal. To shoot at an animal just because you can see it is not hunting it's just shooting. Those wishing to shoot a half mile or more should target shoot. There are too many variables that can cause a wounded animal at such long ranges and those animals deserve more respect.
Like the original post said the guy didn't even bother to look for any sign of a hit, probably didn't feel llike walking down one side of the canyon and up the other side. i'm sure that happens a lot and causes many animals to die a long suffering death.