Red Rock Precision lack of ethics

[Bbowers]

Let's see how you guys feel about what we witnessed in Colorado 2nd season this year. We had the displeasure of meeting one of the 2 owners of Red Rock in the backcountry on a ridge. A brief discussion lead to us telling him we were going after a buck below for my buddies son. He said ok and off he went with his camera crew. Some time later shots started ringing out from the other side of the knife ridge. Here was Red Rock owner shooting at a buck from 1320 yards!!! After 5 shots, the buck slowly walked away. Mr Red Rock..HE WALKED AWAY ALSO..NEVER WENT TO CHECK FOR BLOOD!!!!! Sickening! He could have easily closed the gap to 700-800 yards. It was pure ego and about nothing but selling guns! At that distance the bullet wouldn't have even opened up. Luckily he did walk away because had he come back there likely would have been a fight on the ridge. Ironically, I and another buddy were talking to the other partner and planning to buy two of their guns. NOT NOW!



Completely unethical behavior and we plan to let spread the word as far and wide as possible!


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[Gr8bawana]

Wow! I'll bet they won't show that on tv.

 

[Ikeepitcold]

I would bet that this happens more then most watching the shows are led on to believe. Ethics people!!!!!! The animal deserves it!!

 

[Gr8bawana]

Yea we've had this discussion before, those idiots on the long range shows blow!
I'm sure he couldn't have cared less whether he hit the animal because it didn't drop at the shot and make a spectacular image for
the camera so no spouting off about his great equipment and sponsors.

 

[AKaviator]

I have sent several messages to the outdoor channel voicing my opinion of those shows. It would be nice if a lot of others would too. I know that ethics can be hard to define, but I believe strongly that ethical hunters need to rally against what is widely believed to be poor hunting ethics. Hunting is under attack, why sit by while a few bad apples make hunting look bad. we need to stress fair chase and good stewardship of the resources. I hope those other kind of shows get cancelled.

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

Yea we've had this discussion before, those idiots on the long range shows blow!
I'm sure he couldn't have cared less whether he hit the animal because it didn't drop at the shot and make a spectacular image for
the camera so no spouting off about his great equipment and sponsors.

Yes we have on a number of occasions. I remember one poster who actually said after spotting an antelope he wanted, he got in his truck and drove further away so he could make a 1000 yard shot. Pretty shameful IMHO!

 

[Ikeepitcold]

For me I have no problem with SHOOTING long range at any distance a person wants to no matter their skill level at targets and at a range. But long range hunting is very different. MER is a term we are hearing a lot more about and is something I truly believe in and is a must for and hunter at any range.

Take a look at this Blog if you haven't seen it already it's on the Eastmans home page under Blogs
http://blog.eastmans.com/long-range-shooting-whats-your-intent/

 

[Don K]

Was he wearing his scent lock suit so the animal didn't smell him at that distance?

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

Take a look at this Blog if you haven't seen it already it's on the Eastmans home page under Blogs
http://blog.eastmans.com/long-range-shooting-whats-your-intent/

This is a great discussion and should be a must read for all of is, yes even you string and arrow guys too. Are we hunters or shooters? For me, I hunt game and shoot targets

 

[Don K]

Thanks for the link to the blog and the suggestion to view it. I also agree everyone should read it

 

[vince]

Sounds like he poached, not in the legal sense, a deer from the kid.
He knew that the kid was trying for a deer and used your information on the location of the deer to attempt to harvest the same animal. That, too me, shows his lack of ethics. He should've pulled out totally, or stayed put,as he was there first, and maybe even helped the kid. That would've been a better television show in my opinion.
Going to the top of the opposite ridge and attempting to take that deer, knowing the kid was trying for it, shows a level of narcissism that few people will tolerate.

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[Bbowers]

As bad as his actions were, I need to be clear. It was a different deer. Very steep country and the deer were on 2 different sides of a knife ridge. Ironically, when the kid popped over the ridge to see what he was shooting at....the buck was 467 yards away. His dad wouldn't let him shoot. This was a really big buck.

 

[Bbowers]

No scent lok...but I don't think there was a piece of Kuiu him and his kids weren't wearing!

 

[Topgun 30-06]

IMHO this long range "shooting" at game is getting out of hand due to these TV shows trying to show how easy it is just to sell their products. What we don't see is stuff like the OP mentioned when the animal doesn't immediately fall to the shot like it was hit with the hammer of Thor! Those are obviously never shown because the shows are strictly made to sell these gun/scope rigs to people that probably shouldn't be shooting out at 250 yards and think now with this fancy tool they can kill out at 700-1000 yards. IMHO these shots at 600 to 700+ yards should be kept to gongs and paper, as it is shooting and not hunting in the true sense of the word when the animal can't use any of it's senses to allude the predator!

 

[kiddwinner]

that place is a joke... I just got on their site and watched an elk (a very small bull) get shot at 1090 yards. I was 965 yards from elk this year (665 yards further than id shoot) and they had no idea we were there. Stick to target shooting if your going over 400-500 yards...

 

[Elkoholic307]

Yes we have on a number of occasions. I remember one poster who actually said after spotting an antelope he wanted, he got in his truck and drove further away so he could make a 1000 yard shot. Pretty shameful IMHO!

Good times, good times.

 

[tikka_mike]

I remember that scoundrel that shot the antelope at 1000 yards. I do have to give him props though he pulled the shot off and got it on video too if I remember correctly.. what was his name again? I dont see him on here anymore

 

[Elkoholic307]

Lol. Still the best shot I've ever seen. Especially since it was bedded and there was a pretty decent crosswind.

 

[ScottR]

There in lies the issue with this rise of LRH, so may people are pursuing it and thinking they are capable of things that aren't realistic. The guy may have made the shot, but at those distances the variables change in an instant. Was it necessary to add yardage for a clean, ethical kill?

 

[WapitiBob]

Nothing wrong with a limit of 200 or 300 yards but a shot of that distance certainly doesn't take any skill with a decent rifle and a spring-summer of range time. Separating the hunt from the shot, it's a lot tougher to get close than it is to shoot them.