NVBird'n'Big
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Everyone seems to have forgotten his nickname. I'm just making sure that doesn't happen!
Nevada predator project
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Musket Man
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Yeah I read it. Heck in Ryan hatches little paragraphs at the beginning I think he even called them.
I gave part of it in the OP. The guy goes on how ndow is scared of the success because they will have to spend more money because of it. Kind of bashes them on a lot of things. If you ever see this months issue, look at it. Muleycrazy won't have the online up for several more months.
Musket Man
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So what do they do with the $3 predator fee they charge with my license every year? Seems like that would be able to fund projects like this.
NVBird'n'Big
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That's a great point, the article touches on it when it talks about the studies of lion and coyote diets and habitat. I just found this letter that spells out the waste and hippy bullcrap that NDOW is using this money for. It is a good letter that was written last fall by the NV Forearms Coalition http://www.nvfac.org/Portals/0/documents/NVFAC letter re predator management fee.pdf
Musket Man
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its unbelievable the things people these days want to study to death. More proof out wildlife is being managed by idiots.... Who really needs to study what cats and dogs eat. If they really want to study that the most cost effective way would be to kill them and cut them open to see whats in their stomach! I actually thought that $3 went to killing predators before this.... Im not understanding why in that letter they are so concerned with predator control only benefiting deer. Dont most areas have more species then just deer? I dont see how reducing predators in any area would only help deer.
I'm with you MM. I'm personally effected by this absurd "sage grouse study". NDOW and Harry Reidiculous are planning a huge land closure in areas I love hunting. Turns out I've been funding it, they claim the sage grouse on the westside of NV are a pure rare strain, they've paid millions to ranchers to abandoned ranch property for breeding grounds. I'm very unimpressed with NDOW and feel a little foolish, I've attended several meetings fighting the closure when I've been paying them. This needs to be heard by all sportsmen, see how NDOW handles it.
Musket Man
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I would assume the biggest thing affecting the sage grouse (assuming they are actually having problems and they arent just a tool to take our public lands away, which I wouldnt doubt a bit) is coyotes. So spending that money to thin out the coyotes would help everything.
A ndow biologist watched an eagle sit on a power line and kill 25 sage grouse. He was talking at one of the dinners my grandpa was at. It took and killed 25 sage grouse in 1 day from the same spot. Crazy!
According to NDOW, Ravens are the hardest on sage grouse populations. They destroy nests and eggs, one study a biologist placed flags at grouse nests, turns out that made it even easier for ravens to destroy every nest he marked. And even dumber, Ravens are protected, can't touch them!
Musket Man
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That is alot for 1 eagle in 1 day and Im sure its not the only eagle that does that.
Another thing that really bothers me about these studies and all the money they cost is there are biologists, game wardens, ect already out in the field. It seems like part of their job is to study all these things and they should know whats going on in their area without an additional study.
And we've argued to thin Ravens down and antis flip on that idea too! I read a post by an anti that said "we invade mountains like disease does the body, we need to stay out of these animals (all) homes and everything would be fine". Sandoval appointed a paid HSUS representative to the game commission so things are just gonna get worse.
Drhorsepower
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http://www.ndow.org/uploadedFiles/ndoworg/Content/Wildlife_Education/Publications/2014-Predator-Plan.pdf
They have raven control projects in 022
They have raven control projects in 022
The common denominator is it seems to be about money most of the time. Unfortunately.
Musket Man
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Musket Man
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if private businesses were run anything like the government they would all be out of business..... What I want to know is if the federal and state gov's can waste all their money and have a budget deficit and its ok why cant I blow all my money and have a deficit and it be ok. lol