He had one trail cam pic of the bear from a couple years before I shot it. No one had ever actually seen him though.The skull was a little over 19" with an estimated weight of 300 lbs in late May when I got him which would have put him around 400 in the fall. The outfitter Matt was on cloud nine. His website is www.swanspointoutfitters.com He is a super guy. He contacted Bear Hunting magazine and they asked me to submit an article which they published last fall. It was my first effort at an article and was a lot of fun.Yes it is! Truly is one of the prettiest bears I've seen. I bet the outfitter was impressed to. Did he have trail camera pics of that bear beforehand?