Moral question?

[libidilatimmy]

Just because you're in the drawing with these people doesn't mean you have to hunt, camp, or scout with them. If you draw the tag but don't feel comfortable hunting with people you don't know, then just be honest about the situation with him.

 

[hoshour]

He really screwed by adding people to a hunt with you without your permission and you need to be honest with him about how you feel about it.

That really makes a guy wonder about his integrity. Guys that have issues with integrity are not guys you probably want to hunt with. You might find he wants to party hunt or that he always takes the first shot, shoots at distances he can't handle, won't follow up wounded game...

As far as his buddies go, it's pretty hard to get a real good handle just from meeting them. People can change out in the woods.

 

[CrossCreeks]

I would be upset with my buddy if he did this to me you have that right. These guys might be alright but I would definitely want to know more about them if I were investing time and money on this hunt. I would probably stick with the draw as it is in the group but I did not feel that great about it after finding out more about these guys I would be up front tell my buddy I am going solo. Either way I would have a heart to heart talk with him. The most sure thing that I can tell because I have done it is , " hunting with a person or persons who you do not care for or rubs you the wrong way makes for the most miserable hunt "

 

[kesand72]

A lot of good advice here. IMO, whatever you decide, you will have to have a heart to heart with your friend and let him know in no uncertain terms that something like this will NEVER happen again.

 

[go_deep]

I'm sticking it out, if we draw its going to be a must meet these guys a few times and I'll use a few scouting trips to scout them out.

 

[shootbrownelk]

I had a similar thing happen to me some years ago. Tags were easier to get and there was a lot more game. This was an elk hunt in what used to be my favorite spot. A friend from Minnesota applied for the area (general tag for me). 2 days before the opener he shows up at my place with 2 trucks and 4 friends of his. He had gone there with me before and got a pretty nice bull, so he tells all his friends to apply there (without telling me of course) Long story short, those friends told their friends and so on. My honey hole turned to crap. And I haven't talked to the ass-hat since. He never apologized.

 

[go_deep]

I had a similar thing happen to me some years ago. Tags were easier to get and there was a lot more game. This was an elk hunt in what used to be my favorite spot. A friend from Minnesota applied for the area (general tag for me). 2 days before the opener he shows up at my place with 2 trucks and 4 friends of his. He had gone there with me before and got a pretty nice bull, so he tells all his friends to apply there (without telling me of course) Long story short, those friends told their friends and so on. My honey hole turned to crap. And I haven't talked to the ass-hat since. He never apologized.

That truly sucks!
And on a side note I think the name ass-hat is pretty dang funny.

 

[Gr8bawana]

I had a similar thing happen once when planning a pheasant hunt. First there was going to be 4 of us but one of the guys I worked who was a vedor with told someone at each store he went to. It ended up being 9 guys. The pheasants here are few and far between and we just had a couple of fields to hunt and it was a mess. After the first morning push all they wanted to do was drink beer.
Needless to say I never invited him ever again.

 

[Tim McCoy]

I'm sticking it out, if we draw its going to be a must meet these guys a few times and I'll use a few scouting trips to scout them out.

Good plan. Maybe the first scouting trip to a place other than your honey hole, in case there are "ass-hats" in the party.

 

[Laddy]

I don't think you're being unreasonable at all.

Plus, your concerns are warranted. I believe the majority of hunters have experienced at one point a hunt with strangers that turned sour. Mine was back in '99 in Montana when I got roped into a group thing by way of my cousin. Never again.

 

[shootbrownelk]

I forgot to mention that the 4 guys he brought along were drunks too. That's one thing I won't have around, somebody who drinks while he hunts, or somebody hung-over from the night before. Alcohol & Gunpowder do not mix.

 

[go_deep]

I forgot to mention that the 4 guys he brought along were drunks too. That's one thing I won't have around, somebody who drinks while he hunts, or somebody hung-over from the night before. Alcohol & Gunpowder do not mix.

I agree, unfortunately I'm know that first hand.
I chatted with him yesterday and he knows where I stand and why, he seemed like he felt pretty bad about it so I guess we'll see what happens.

 

[dan maule]

I agree, unfortunately I'm know that first hand.
I chatted with him yesterday and he knows where I stand and why, he seemed like he felt pretty bad about it so I guess we'll see what happens.

Good Luck whatever happens I hope you have an enjoyable hunt.

 

[2rocky]

If the rest of the party Brings up your point average, stay in the draw with them.

 

[shootbrownelk]

I agree, unfortunately I'm know that first hand.
I chatted with him yesterday and he knows where I stand and why, he seemed like he felt pretty bad about it so I guess we'll see what happens.

He should feel pretty bad about it, it was an underhanded thing to do IMO.