Mechanical vs. Fixed Blade Broadheads for Elk

Futboler

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I'm a Montec guy. They have never failed me and I enjoy gaining confidence using their practice broadheads prior to and during archery season. I find that I need to make minor adjustments when moving from field points to broadheads for the season. From August thru October I just use the practice broadheads when going through my daily regimen. When that special moment comes, I know just what to expect. FIXED all the way.
 

Montana

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Years ago when I first started the archery world I went back and forth on this. Embarrassed to say this but I lost a lot of animals. Probably 1 in 3. To the point that the bow was put away on the 5th day of a 135 day season with 7 unfilled tags in my pocket. Archery was dead to me. During the off season during discussions this topic came up a lot, but I knew this wasn't the solution. There were too many factors, as you archers are aware of, too list here. But here is what has brought me back. Type of broadhead... Nothing to do with it. Be accurate. My bow was at 70 lbs. I dropped it down to 58. Always wait for the PERFECT shot and know that a lot of animals will walk away from you at 20 yards. Whatever range you are comfortable shooting at with targets, reduce in the field. Before I pull the trigger, the animal has to be hit with the range finder, I know this may be a little extreme, but this is what I feel is the ethical route because of my experience. Now in 3 years not a single animal has been lost, usually 3-4 down a year.
So my opinion on broadheads... It doesn't matter. Accuracy, accuracy. find what you shoot well and know your effective range...in the field not your backyard.
 

NMBowhntr

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Have shot thru (accidentally) both shoulders of a small bull elk with the titanium Atom on an Axis arrow. Arrow tipped a branch and went from being a perfect shot to center-punching the shoulder blade. My heart sank! But low and behold, the luminock was clearly indicating the nock was behind his front leg as he ran off. Found him piled up 70-yds away, and you could stick your index finger thru both shoulders.
Obviously wasn't aiming at the shoulder, but I feel the Atom was the reason I found that elk. The titanium razor wire compresses when something compresses it hard enough, like bone, and then springs back open thru the flesh. Best part is, it behaves like a mechanical without being mechanical. For those who are tired of re-sighting every fall to shoot blades, and chewing up your targets like I am, the wires can't plane, and they come with an accuracy guarantee to fly exactly to the same spot as your fieldpoints. And they do for me. Only bad thing is, they are pricey, and I don't know if they are still being made.
Just my experience, they are awesome for elk.
 

Gatorman

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I shoot the G5 Teken T3 for whitetails. I have nothing but good reports from them. Great blood trails and they fly just the same as my field points. I havent killed anything bigger than a 200# whitetail with them, so I cant comment on an animal the size of an elk. Hopefully I will be able to next year when I make it out west.
 

nvarcher

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All broadhead's will work great with a well-placed shot. You want a broadhead that will perform on a marginal shot. That's why I shoot fixed heads.
 

cnalder

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Great post Montana and thanks for the humility. Many of us, including me, have been in the same boat early in our archery careers.
Every other year or so I introduce someone to archery hunting and I always stress, should a poundage that you are accurate and comfortable with. I lived in Boise for years and was always dissappointed in August when all sorts of new folks would show up at the range with new gear. Many struggled to pull their bows back smoothly and couldn't hold them. On person almost shot their foot doing this. For those of us that shot bows 20 years ago, with the new technology you don't have to shoot with the poundage you once used to. Several years ago I had a friend that drew 74lbs and I would get more penetration into the same targets at only 65. He has since bought a top end bow and now out penetrates me at 65lbs.

That being said I learned that it doesn't matter the broadhead or if you shoot $130 a dozen arrows or have the latest gear. You have to be comfortable and confident with your setup, have practiced lots, and know your limitations. At one time mechanicals became popular and I think it was when archery technology really started advancing. IMO I think many folks never learned to tune their bows to get accurate BH/FP flight out of fixed BH, so mechanicals have become increasingly popular. Shouldn't matter what you shoot as long as you can place the arrow where it needs to be and have tuned your setup well.
 

CrimsonArrow

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All broadhead's will work great with a well-placed shot. You want a broadhead that will perform on a marginal shot. That's why I shoot fixed heads.
That is an excellent point, but let me add this. Fixed blade heads will perform better on marginal shots where bone is an issue. Most mechanical heads (assuming a significantly larger cutting diameter) will perform better on marginal soft-tissue shots, like too far back or too high. That being said, I prefer mechanicals strictly for the cutting diameter, and have never had an issue with penetration or deployment.
 

nvarcher

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That is an excellent point, but let me add this. Fixed blade heads will perform better on marginal shots where bone is an issue. Most mechanical heads (assuming a significantly larger cutting diameter) will perform better on marginal soft-tissue shots, like too far back or too high. That being said, I prefer mechanicals strictly for the cutting diameter, and have never had an issue with penetration or deployment.
Yes but a Fixed head will work great on soft tissue shots. Sure it's not as great as the larger diameter heads. It will definitly outperform a mechanical on a bone shot.
 

HuskyMusky

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the only mechanical I'm sold on is the Rage 2 blade.

I would say Most fixed blades will do the job Most of the time.

I would say Most mechanicals will not.

to each their own, I'm surprised so many bowhunters are constantly changing their setups, I understand wanting to constantly improve but why chance what works? or why fix what's not broken?

I think most guys would be better off getting to know their "older" equipment precisely than every year trying a new broadhead etc...

I use to shoot muzzy's 3 blade 100gr, I now only shoot rage 2 blade, if I ever go back to a fixed broadhead I'll probably shoot what my dad only shoots from day 1 his whole bowhunting career, NAP razorbak 100gr, 2blade w/2 bleeder blades w/rotating technology cut on contact.
 

8750

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Have shot thru (accidentally) both shoulders of a small bull elk with the titanium Atom on an Axis arrow. Arrow tipped a branch and went from being a perfect shot to center-punching the shoulder blade. My heart sank! But low and behold, the luminock was clearly indicating the nock was behind his front leg as he ran off. Found him piled up 70-yds away, and you could stick your index finger thru both shoulders.
Obviously wasn't aiming at the shoulder, but I feel the Atom was the reason I found that elk. The titanium razor wire compresses when something compresses it hard enough, like bone, and then springs back open thru the flesh. Best part is, it behaves like a mechanical without being mechanical. For those who are tired of re-sighting every fall to shoot blades, and chewing up your targets like I am, the wires can't plane, and they come with an accuracy guarantee to fly exactly to the same spot as your fieldpoints. And they do for me. Only bad thing is, they are pricey, and I don't know if they are still being made.
Just my experience, they are awesome for elk.
Wow, Awesome experience. Im glad to hear the Atom performed as it is marketed.
 

killallcoyotes

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I think the G5 montec and the strikers are good. Killed elk with both. I tried the G5 T3 mechanicals, they were always coming open in my quiver. I have been shooting the grim reaper mechanicals, they seem to do good on a target but have yet to shoot an animal with them. I like the montecs but the only down fall is they are fixed, no replacing blades. I think the strikers are the best G5 makes. Both times i killed with the G5's the blood trail was weak that is why i'm trying a mechanical. Bigger cutting area means more blood.... I hope...
 

packer58

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the only mechanical I'm sold on is the Rage 2 blade.

I would say Most fixed blades will do the job Most of the time.

I would say Most mechanicals will not.

to each their own, I'm surprised so many bowhunters are constantly changing their setups, I understand wanting to constantly improve but why chance what works? or why fix what's not broken?

I think most guys would be better off getting to know their "older" equipment precisely than every year trying a new broadhead etc...

Comment : Most bow hunters and archery guys in general are natural born tinkerers, just like guys that reload and bass fishermen......thier always tweaking something to gain that "edge", i know........I'm guilty on all three counts !!!!!!
 
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In God We Trust

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packer58 it is funny you say that. I tried a different broadhead 3 seasons in a row. I shot the NAP spitfires for one season and only had one blade deploy on a cow I shot. I now shoot Rocket Broadhead's Meet Seeker. I have killed a few different animals including elk and deer with them and they have performed flawlessly.
 

dihardhunter

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What JNDeer said. I've shot and killed plenty of critters with mechanicals, but I had an experience where I am confident a compact fixed blade would have gotten the job done, but the mechanical fell to pieces. Yes, I could have made a better shot, but I will never shoot mechanicals again. Slick Tricks for me!
 

archerycrazy

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Yup, you got that right ivorytip!!!!

That's why I shoot Wac'em broadheads. The only thing that can go wrong with it,,, is me!!!
 

justinthedoc

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Killed several elk with rage 2 blades, complete pass throughs. I never use the same head twice though. One at 78 yards quatering still went through. I am sold, think about it, even a closed rage or mechanical is still only slightly smaller than some fixed blade like atoms for instance. This year I am going to try the wasp Z-forces, so far so good. Used to be avidly against mechanical, now I think there the only way to go on some game. If I was hunting say a buffalo, it would definatly be fixed just cause of the strength needed. I have guided over 75 succesful hunts on elk with a bow, and can tell you most if not all of the animals we lost was do to a poor shot placement not the broadhead. So in my theory I would rather shoot something that doesnt or needs very minimal tuning, and for me thats a mechanical head. Just my .02 Oh, i guess I forgot to metion it.. Yes, I did get the Red Carpet Treatment.. the farthest my elk have gone with a good shot with a rage was maybe 60 yrds... The one piled up at about 40yrds, and when he ran past me I literally got sprayed. Was devistating. I have also shot several with fixed, and have had blades brake off when the hit a rib, so would a mechanical. The last animal I shot with a fixed blade was a wasp bullet at 98 yrds. That elk went maybe 60-70yrds. They both work, I just like the bigger holes I guess, and the accuracy of a mechanical.
 
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poppapump

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I have a hard time using Rage on a whitetail but on a elk ..................nofrickn way!!!

Nice you are having luck with them but they have done good at times with whitetail and other times have broke and bent badly. That is on a thin skinned 250 pound animal not a thick skin 1000 pound "Bull"