Meat hunting vs. Trophy hunting

ivorytip

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i love this thread!!!!!!! i was out hunting yesterday and being how i used up all my vac time on archery elk i was going to shoot the first buck i seen, well..... i spotted a pig of a buck at 1730 at 900 yrds away down hill. i tried to get a stalk on him but the side of the draw i was on was a thick mess of buck brush and aspens, the other side open, he was feeding in a small clearing on fresh green grass. not wanting to spook him i held back and plan on going in on monday morning on otherside to make a more silent aproach. after seeing him i passed on 4 2x2 and 1 small 4x. i suddenly found more time to hunt after seeing him. the smaller bucks would have been easy to kill, no skill on my part, getting to this guy however will take some patience and luck. last day of hunt ill take one of thoe kamakazi bucks.
 
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Musket Man

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I figured out the meat I got from the 2 antelope I just got cost just about $10 a pound. Tags, diesel, food, seasonings vac bags ect I used processing it. If I hadnt got the reduced price doe tag and only got the buck I estimate it would of came out to $15 a pound. I decided to charge most of it to I REALLY WANTED TO GO HUNTING and that brought it down to about $1.50 a pound so I got a great deal on filling the freezer once I calculated it that way!;)
 

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I consider myself a 90% meat hunter and 10% trophy hunter. My goal each year is to fill the freezer while building my preference points to eventually get drawn for a unit/ranch where I can hopefully harvest a trophy buck/bull. I already have horns on the wall for moose, mtn goat, bighorn sheep, elk, mule deer, and antelope (all taken here in CO), so I really don't need another set of horns and would rather concentrate on filling the freezer instead. However, there is always the urge to improve on what I have on the wall, so I play the preference point system, which can take years to accomplish (it took 17 years to draw my bull moose tag). If I feel the need for a challenge then I go archery hunting, which I have done for several years with minimal success, but it is definitely a challenge that you learn to respect. Fortunately in CO you can get 2 elk tags per year, so I often split my tags with a low success either sex archery hunt, and then get a cow tag for a rifle season in which I have been very successful (I am currently 100% in filling my cow tag in the past 5 years - including this year). I hunt primarily to fill the freezer, and filling spots on the wall are a distant 2nd (the only thing I'm missing right now is a CO whitetail buck, of which most are on private land and may be a hard tag to fill)
 

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Well, that's a good reason to save the antlers. I would imagine they don't want them too big so they can be handled easier?
There are some big blind kids too, but from my own personal knowledge, I do not remember anyone donating any huge elk antlers. However, if that was the case, the antlers could either be blunted, or the tips protected with garden hose, etc., like when shipping. Just to be clear, the kids are allowed to touch and feel the antlers, but there are a sufficient number of docents around to ensure their safety. They are not allowed to wave them around like they are in the flag core.
 

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Pete,

I see you are stirring the pot again! Seeing how think their skin is? You are one of a kind buddy! LOL

P.S. To the easily offended, Pay no attention to my friend OH. He is just gigging you he does not mean any harm!
 

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well....... on fri night i took my 7 year old boy up with me, from the rd we spotteda nice buck walking up thru the trees, 100yrds away. i drove to other side of trees and we got out and off the rd and watch the tree line, this buck walks out, hes been poorly shot, limping real bad. wasnt a monster wasnt much wider than ears but was rediculously tall and had some mass. he was about 400 yrds out at this point and walking slow. i found a rest and shot, deer was nowhere to be seen. we walked up the steep hill realizing i left my light in the truck and it was getting dark fast, couldnt see any blood trail being how dark it was. came back up next mid morn to look. found blood trail that led to gut pile:rolleyes: so we walked over the ridge and started glassing, son spotted a small buck with his binos on next ridge over so with his excitment we made a stalk, sun was in deers face and we had total advantage in wide open. to end the story, that was the smallest buck ive ever packed out of the mountains. we hiked out at 8, very dark, son loved every sec of it. i gotta say....... im an antler man thru and thru but this last couple years hunting with my son along has mae it less important to me i guess. when he turns 12 i think thatll change:cool:
 
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Ivorytip....great story. Reminds me of a hunt I did here in Colorado 6 or so years ago. My hunting pard and I both used 7 points to get a Ranching for Wildlife tag for elk (big mistake!!!). The hunt was not going well for a number of reasons that we had no control over. I was watching an area that we had seen lots of tracks in near the fence between the ranch we were hunting and the NF. I was about ready to move when I saw a nice, young spike bull limping down the game trail I was watching. Someone had broke one of his front legs with a really poorly placed shot. Unusual too because the only place a spike was legal was on the RFW ranch we were hunting and I had heard not shooting at all for a couple of days. I knew he couldn't live the winter, so to make a long story short I shot him in the neck and filled my tag with a great eating elk.

Ethically I guess i did the right thing, but was a let down for my expectations.

Meat yes...trophy no.........and the elk was not suffering anymore.
 

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This thread is a riot! Lots of differing perspectives here. If I had to qualify myself I'd probably agree with the whole Hybrid-Hunter statement. I have not bought meat in a store in over eight years. All I eat is game whether it be elk, deer, pheasants, or waterfowl. But the funny thing is I guide fly-fishermen in the summers and I'm all catch and release on almost all fish. Don't get me wrong, I love to eat fish and if you put me on a walleye lake you'll have to club me over the head to get me to quit putting "eyes" in the cooler. To me this just proves my point of being a hybrid-hunter. I don't HAVE to hunt for food that is why I have an education and a profession, I LIKE to hunt for my food. Game is better for us, great tasting, and sustainable... I like to do as Peter was instructed; "Arise, Kill, Eat..." I'm taking liberties here of course. With all that said I'd be lying if I told you that I'd let a 350 bull walk because there was a spike following him that would be better eating. My approach to big game hunting (that includes deer) is to fill the freezer with cows and does FIRST! Then I'm looking for a good bull or buck. This especially applies to whitetails as I've killed a pile of "dink" bucks and won't kill a whitetail buck if I'm not going to put him on the wall. However, my philosophy on whitetail does is kind of like Lay's potato chips you can't eat/kill just one! So, in short, I'm a meat hunting, carnivore who hunts because he loves to and won't ever turn down a trophy or the chance to hunt for one!
 

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I consider myself a trophy hunter. I will hunt hard for an above average trophy for the area I am hunting until it gets down to the wire. Then I will take an average sized animal. With that said I always take care of the meat and I eat what I kill. I believe it is disrespectful to kill an animal only for the antlers on it's head. I guess I like the challenge of pursuing a mature specimen. Also the animal has lived a good portion of its life and had a chance to pass on its genes. I will kill does for meat but I try to take the mature ones if possible.

I keep the antlers and display them on a plaque or I get the head mounted. Along with pictures it is the best way to remember the hunt and honor the animal. I don't feel as if it is bragging or boasting just a way of remembering.
 

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I left a cow half quartered out over night at 20 degrees before being able to get the rest the next day
And to my suprise it was already turning by the next morning. So I know for a fact that when left overnight in 40 and 50s its done
 

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Ive left elk in 40s and 50s overnite and never had a problem. Im really not sure what that has to do with trophy hunting vs. meat hunting.
 

ivorytip

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id like to know what some people qualify spoiled meat as, recently had a friend tell me he has to throw his elk quarters out cuz it was spoiled... its been getting in 20's at night and 60 in day, hes only had it hanging for 3 days so i went to look at it and only thing wrong with it was the norm, the dark hard crust that forms over all air exposed meat, i started cutting the crust away and showed him it wasnt spoiled at all. i stayed there and helped him break it down and wrap it, was sick to think all of that wonderfull meat almost ended up in trash cuz of him not knowing.
 

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id like to know what some people qualify spoiled meat as, recently had a friend tell me he has to throw his elk quarters out cuz it was spoiled... its been getting in 20's at night and 60 in day, hes only had it hanging for 3 days so i went to look at it and only thing wrong with it was the norm, the dark hard crust that forms over all air exposed meat, i started cutting the crust away and showed him it wasnt spoiled at all. i stayed there and helped him break it down and wrap it, was sick to think all of that wonderfull meat almost ended up in trash cuz of him not knowing.
The Down side of hanging/aging meat for any period of time. There is some loss but with higher fat content game such as elk it increases tenderness and adds quite a bit of flavor once that fat starts to break down. Adds alot of work to the processing stage but makes it tasty, tasty!!
 

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trophy animals have more meat. a 5 year old trophy buck has a lot more meat than a 2 year old doe or spike buck. so to me if your meat hunting why aren't you after the biggest animal with the most meat.

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trophy animals have more meat. a 5 year old trophy buck has a lot more meat than a 2 year old doe or spike buck. so to me if your meat hunting why aren't you after the biggest animal with the most meat.

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Bigger ain't necessarily better. Eating wise, I'd rather have a nice fat barren cow elk than a big rutting bull. Deer, probably less difference. Best eating deer I ever shot was a nice fat 4x4 from my apple orchard. He only had one testicle and the carcass weightd 203. Thats just the hanging meat. He probably didn't have much interest in chasing the does around.