Max shot distance on elk... 270 weatherby

Ringo2holliday

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Hey guys/gals,

Just curious if anyone hunts elk with a 270 Weatherby, and if so... what's your max (ethical) yard shot you would take with this caliber?
 

BuzzH

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IME, the biggest limiting factor to the capability of any round, is the platform itself and the nut behind the trigger, though not necessarily in that order.
 

D_Dubya

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My brother in law shot a mature bull in colorado 2 years ago at about 250 yards with his 270 WBY using a 130 grain TTSX, no bone hit on the entry side, but plenty of damage to both lungs and exit thru a rib with a nice exit hole. He ran about 50 yards after the shot. I would think you'd be good out to 400 - 450 with this load. according to the chart referenced above its at 1800 ft lbs at 450, should be enough to deflate an elk.
 

mcseal2

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I shot my best bull with a 270 win and 140gr Accubond loaded to 2950fps at 530yds and again at 614yds because he hadn't dropped yet. The first shot hit right behind the shoulder and exited, the second shot he had stopped with his vitals behind a tree and was wobbling but I hit him again anyway. It hit right in front of the shoulder (all that was available) and passed through also.

Conditions were very good, almost no wind and I had a good rest available with the gun supported with a dead tree in front and my pack in back. I was able to sit behind the gun and lock it in very solid, very little crosshair movement on 14x. I also had time to range and dial the elevation. I knew the gun and what it would do from lots and lots of practice. I'd say the 270 Weatherby would do fine with the same bullet if it's put in the right place.
 

BuzzH

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Doesn't mean much...unless you're shooting elk at 100 yards. Don't even know much about your platform. Fixed crosshairs? Spinning turrets? BDC? Bedded, trigger, firing pin assembly? Chrono'd load? How is all that relating to your platform? How much have you shot past 100?

Here's a 5-shot 100 yard group I shot with my 7-08...big deal. Doesn't mean a lot, other than what it says about what the rifle is doing at 100...on a calm day, with good handloads, off a bench.

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I spent some time at the range today with that 7-08 and 140 AB's. 250, 300, 350, 400 yards cold bore, first shot hits on 6 inch steel no problem. 450, 500 and 550....cold bore, first shot hits on 12 inch steel (stayed inside 10 inches, worst shot was at 500 2 inches inside the 12 inch plate).

With the wind, and my abilities today, 600+ was 100% too far...wiffed the 12 inch steel and came home. Other days, 600, 650, 750...no problem.

Personally, I wouldn't have shot over 400 at a live animal with the conditions the way they were today. I called that from the time I stepped out of the truck. Doped the wind pretty good and stayed on target to 550, but wouldn't have chanced it in a hunting situation.

Again, how the shooter and platform perform, under varying conditions, at different ranges, is going to tell you more than ballistics. 100 yard targets are for sighting in, .768 is good at 100, but what it does at 200, 300, etc. etc. may be all together different.

Like I said, what the round is capable of via ballistics, is not going to define a maximum range...ability, or lack-there-of, from the platform and shooter will determine maximum range to kill an elk.

That maximum range will also change depending on conditions.

Questions like these scare me...
 
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Ringo2holliday

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Weatherby Marv, vxiii leupold wind plex, medium rings (1.8"), custom cds turrets and wind card for colorado conditions using 3320fps 140gr accubond (standard weatherby ammo), shot competition... deadly to 1000yrd off bench but doesn't mean much in this situation either other than yes I put lots of rounds down range on a regular basis... Does that help buzz? Shot lots of paper, deer, and hogs never a elk... 140gr accubond does everything I need it to in South texas.

I know this gun and this particular ammo is the one it likes from moa standpoint. Others are taking 300 and 338s on these hunts and was looking for people's opinion... I apologize for scaring you
 
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elktaker

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Opps I did 7mm 08 in stead of 270 weatherby

800 to 900 yards keeps you above 1200 ft/lb. As long as you hit vitals, a lot of shooters shoot 260 rem and 6.5 creedmore out to 1000 on elk.
 
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BuzzH

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Did you get the velocity off the box? Chrono? If chrono, velocity spread? Powder in those factory loads temperature stable?

MILS, MOA, or yardage etched CDS?

How is a wind card for Colorado conditions, different from a wind card for Montana? Wyoming? Utah? etc. conditions?

I can speak to the abilities of the AB's as they are a great bullet...that's one thing that you don't have to worry about. I also think the round is very capable of killing elk.

Still cant answer your question...you need to decide and be realistic and honest with your abilities.
 
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Ikeepitcold

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MER

Maximum Effective Range

This is what You and only You need to come up with on your own. It's not what does someone else says how far you can shoot but how far your MER is.

The bullet may be able to do more then you are able to to shoot.

I understand your question that your asking what other people's max is to get an idea of what has worked for them but just my two cents.
 
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Ringo2holliday

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Thanks for sizing me up from a short answer post... good grief, I'm learning fast that you have to write an essay on every detail. Yes your right about the wind, conditions are for the elevation turret... mountain elevation, Ave temp, pressure, bc, etc Reticle is in moa. Graphed the load a couple years ago and factory loads were within -37fps, not enough to worry about it. Look... most of this minor adjustments aren't that big of a deal unless shooting over 500yrds, which I don't consider an ethical shot on most game animals.

However, thanks to elk takers post... I have plenty of energy for shots I'm comfortable taking on elk.

I appreciate it sir!
 

elktaker

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Thanks for sizing me up from a short answer post... good grief, I'm learning fast that you have to write an essay on every detail. Yes your right about the wind, conditions are for the elevation turret... mountain elevation, Ave temp, pressure, bc, etc Reticle is in moa. Graphed the load a couple years ago and factory loads were within -37fps, not enough to worry about it. Look... most of this minor adjustments aren't that big of a deal unless shooting over 500yrds, which I don't consider an ethical shot on most game animals.

However, thanks to elk takers post... I have plenty of energy for shots I'm comfortable taking on elk.

I appreciate it sir!
Good luck! No rifle tag for me this year and my 7mm wsm
 

Slugz

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Weatherby Marv, vxiii leupold wind plex, medium rings (1.8"), custom cds turrets and wind card for colorado conditions using 3320fps 140gr accubond (standard weatherby ammo), shot competition... deadly to 1000yrd off bench but doesn't mean much in this situation either other than yes I put lots of rounds down range on a regular basis... Does that help buzz? Shot lots of paper, deer, and hogs never a elk... 140gr accubond does everything I need it to in South texas.

I know this gun and this particular ammo is the one it likes from moa standpoint. Others are taking 300 and 338s on these hunts and was looking for people's opinion... I apologize for scaring you
I'll be your huckleberry! My 2 sense and understand your comment (lots of 300 Win Mags and 338s out there in elk camps) so I offer this. I want a light handling 24" or less barrel gun. I like a mix between what someone would call a sheep gun and a larger size big game gun. For me that's a 270 Win with either Accubonds or Partitions ( I think any high end bullet though these days could be substituted). I just don't have the time to practice consistently past 400 yards so that sets it for me. I then ensure I am making min ft/lbs or FPS at 400 to ensure my bullet will perform as specified. Your 270 WBY #s are very similar to my 270 Win numbers. As MC Seal has described....your set up will arguably perform very well past 400 yards with a modern constructed bullet. R2H good luck this fall!
 

Tim McCoy

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Weatherby Marv, vxiii leupold wind plex, medium rings (1.8"), custom cds turrets and wind card for colorado conditions using 3320fps 140gr accubond (standard weatherby ammo), shot competition... deadly to 1000yrd off bench but doesn't mean much in this situation either other than yes I put lots of rounds down range on a regular basis... Does that help buzz? Shot lots of paper, deer, and hogs never a elk... 140gr accubond does everything I need it to in South texas.

I know this gun and this particular ammo is the one it likes from moa standpoint. Others are taking 300 and 338s on these hunts and was looking for people's opinion... I apologize for scaring you
Your 270 with the 140 is plenty good elk medicine. Zero need for anything bigger. But if you can shoot something bigger, accurately, that is all good too. Elk die easy and quick with a .277 140gr. pill in the right place. Hit one wrong, and they seem bionic and never die. Ignore the nit picking and this and that etc. sniping. You shoot to 1,000 etc off a bench, I take you at your word, you know how to shoot. All you need to concern yourself with is your effective range under field conditions in terms of accuracy and knowing the velocity, not foot pounds, window your bullet will perform in. One or the other will determine how far you can shoot and the max you should attempt to shoot, which ever is less. Once that is established, closer is better.

Use the 270 WBY with confidence. Plenty of gun with the 140 AB for Wapiti.
 

droptine

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I shoot a 300 wsm. 185 gr. Berger 2885fps (chrono'd) the custom xr turret for my nikon is spot on. My max kill range is 500 yds, and conditions would have to be perfect. 500 yds is a long way!!
Like my dad always told me. That gun will kill a helluva lot farther than you can shoot!! Lol