Just heard Utah CC are getting hit

ore hunter

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I got a hit for $268 today,,,looks like only general deer price as they draw that one last,but im happy with that,,,just now have to wait to see what I actually drew choice wise,,Utah site still shows nothing yet,,but cc does
 

Silentstalker

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Keep the faith. It takes 6-7 days for most charges to process. And, I know of charges hitting after the emails so there is always hope until you are told you did not draw. All that said its nice to see charges on your account! So far we have 2 resident general deer tags. Good luck to all you still waiting!
 

Umpqua Hunter

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I believe there are about 8 of us left in what is one less than the maximum possible (I changed from deer to elk on the second year back when you had to choose elk, antelope or deer). The last few years about 4 or 5 of us have been applying for the single tag going to the max point holder for San Juan early rifle.

No biggie though. It's not really the best year for me to have the tag since my wife already drew for Wyoming elk and I'm gonna add an antelope tag for me.
 

JimP

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I believe there are about 8 of us left in what is one less than the maximum possible (I changed from deer to elk on the second year back when you had to choose elk, antelope or deer). The last few years about 4 or 5 of us have been applying for the single tag going to the max point holder for San Juan early rifle.

No biggie though. It's not really the best year for me to have the tag since my wife already drew for Wyoming elk and I'm gonna add an antelope tag for me.
Your problem with putting in for a unit that only has one tag is that everyone that puts in for the draw is eligible for that tag, not just the top point holders. There has to be a minimum of 2 tags available for a top point holder to draw it.

You just get 22 chances for the best number in the final draw for the tag.
 

Umpqua Hunter

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Your problem with putting in for a unit that only has one tag is that everyone that puts in for the draw is eligible for that tag, not just the top point holders. There has to be a minimum of 2 tags available for a top point holder to draw it.

You just get 22 chances for the best number in the final draw for the tag.
There are two tags, one for the bonus point weighted draw and one for a max point holder. My draw odds have been in the 10% to 20% range for several years for the max point tag.
 
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JimP

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For some reason I was thinking the late season were there was only 1 tag available. But you also need to hope that there isn't any hunters that have been just banking points that joins the San Juan early pool. I looked at one chart that showed as many as 16 applicants with max points as late as 2013, so they either went somewhere else or are just banking points.
 

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For some reason I was thinking the late season were there was only 1 tag available. But you also need to hope that there isn't any hunters that have been just banking points that joins the San Juan early pool. I looked at one chart that showed as many as 16 applicants with max points as late as 2013, so they either went somewhere else or are just banking points.
You're correct, from 2013 to 2015 there has been one tag for the late San Juan rifle hunt, before that there were two tags.

I've been applying for the San Juan early rifle hunt where there were four tags until 2010, three tags from 2011 to 2013 and two tags in 2014 and 2015. The odds have been quite good for several years since before 2010 there were two tags awarded in the max point pool. Although there are fewer tags the last few years, the number of guys applying each year has dropped.

A couple years ago a guy on this forum with one more point than I swooped in and drew the San Juan early tag. I helped him make contact with one of the better local outfitters and he killed a very nice bull with them.

My personal goal for this tag is a personal best 370+ gross bull on DIY, so that guides my thinking of where to apply.

Boulder early rifle would be my second choice. I could have drawn it any year for the past 8+ years or so. Boulder can be a hit or miss for the top end bulls depending on the rut that year. Once my daughter graduates from high school and I can afford the time to do a summer scouting trip, I might jump on that opportunity.

Beaver and Pahvant early rifle are also interesting but they have only had one tag for the early rifle hunt for the past few years. Beaver would interest me since my earliest hunting memories were with my dad when he used to deer hunt there back in the 1970s.

We're in no hurry since we have other hunts in the queue until San Juan hits.
 
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JimP

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You might want to look at the Book Cliffs South for elk. I deer hunted out there for years before the closed it and made it a limited entry unit for deer and have elk hunted it on the LE tags. My elk grossed 343 and my brother in law shot one the next year but it is in the low 300's. He had a heart attack that year and just wanted a bull elk.

Last year during the deer muzzle loader hunt I saw a couple of bulls that would go over 400 but they were in some nasty country but they didn't get stupid by standing out in the open very long.
 

Don K

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I know people that are pretty much guaranteed a tag that have not had a credit card hit yet. So this is keeping my faith and sanity in check right now as they have not finished the charges.
 

Silentstalker

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UH, if you decide to switch to Boulder, look up Ryan at DC outfitters. He consistently gets the job done on great bulls!

Don K, my buddy did not get charged until after the emails came out a couple years ago. Although not typical, Im saying there is still a chance until you are emailed! Good luck all!