Is it time for a muzzle brake?

squirrelduster

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I have a 300 win mag with a brake on it and it really shoots well. The heavier the brake and the lighter the barrel the more you will see a point of impact change. Mine is sub9 pounds and it booted you pretty good but with the brake it is pleasant to shoot.
I currently shoot a 6.5x.284 with no brake and it is sweet to shoot and super accurate. 1/2" MOA is fairly typical. I won't go back.
 

BobT

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Another thing to consider is your scope. Muzzle brakes are very hard on optics.
Hilltop, never heard of this, how are they damaged? I have spent a good chunk of change on my optics and don't want to trash them.

I am a big fan of brakes in general. I like to spot for myself and the brakes allow me to do that. I even have one on my 7 lb. Encore pistol chambered in .218 Bee, you can watch the holes appear in the target with bullets under 50 grains at 50 yards and over. As far as the noise goes, if you care about your hearing you will use it when you shoot whether or not you are using a brake. My hearing is permanently damaged from shooting without hearing protection and it was mostly caused by a .22 rimfire. I learned too late that this type of damage is cumulative and irreversible.
 

squirrelduster

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The problems between the muzzle brakes and scopes from what I have noticed is if you are using a large scope the weight is the problem. I had Leupold mounts on my 300 win mag and the recoil was not the problem but the quick stop by the muzzle break actually sheared off the screw on the side of the Leupold rings. I purchased a new rings and remounted the scope and the same thing happened. I had to go to a Warne mounting system.
I run a Nighforce scope on it. If I were to use a lower quality scope I would bet it would be destroyed.
 

Colorado Cowboy

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I have been shooting my custom commercial Mauser action, Shilen barreled .300 Wby with Leupold mounts and a VXIII 4x14 for about 8 years now. It has a MB on it and I have fired around 1000 rounds thru it load testing and hunting. Never has any scope or mount problems at all. I actually had my first MB in the mid 70's on a custom Sako 7mm Mag. Never had any scope or mount problems then either.
 
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Hilltop

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Hilltop, never heard of this, how are they damaged? I have spent a good chunk of change on my optics and don't want to trash them.

I am a big fan of brakes in general. I like to spot for myself and the brakes allow me to do that. I even have one on my 7 lb. Encore pistol chambered in .218 Bee, you can watch the holes appear in the target with bullets under 50 grains at 50 yards and over. As far as the noise goes, if you care about your hearing you will use it when you shoot whether or not you are using a brake. My hearing is permanently damaged from shooting without hearing protection and it was mostly caused by a .22 rimfire. I learned too late that this type of damage is cumulative and irreversible.
Bob,

The following is a quote from David E. Petzal- supposed shooting expert. I found several others in my research that share his opinion.

"Disadvantages
THERE ARE SEVERAL, and they are serious. First is cost. A good muzzle brake, plus installation by a gunsmith, costs about $250.

The second is noise. Since the muzzle blast is coming back at you instead of going away from you, the report goes from unpleasant to unbearable. Whether shooting at the range or hunting, you are going to have to wear some kind of serious hearing protection. Or you can ignore it, and go deaf quickly.

Which brings us to Ed Brown's muzzle-brakeless dangerous-game rifle. If you are going after something large and unpleasant, your trackers will be alongside you, and it's important that they be able to hear what's going on. However, if you cut loose with a muzzle-braked rifle, they will be unable to hear hoofbeats, growling, roars, screams, or other important sounds.

The third problem is length. Most brakes add 2 inches to a rifle barrel, which does not bother some people, but it bothers the hell out of me.

Fourth, muzzle brakes break scopes. This is a fact. A riflescope is built to withstand violent rearward acceleration and gradual deceleration. But when gas hits a muzzle brake, the deceleration is violent; it's like slamming the scope into a wall. Some scopes can't hack it.

And finally there is this consideration: Of all the muzzle-braked rifles I've fired, none shot to the same point of impact with the brake on as they did with the brake off.

But as we get wimpier and wussier, we are going to see more rifles—including factory guns—with brakes. Sensitive New Age guys will no longer feel compelled to demonstrate their manhood by acquiring concussions, bulged spinal discs, and scope cuts."
 

woodtick

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I've seen the lens crack in a really cheap vortex or nikon(can't remember exactly) on a Savage LRH 7mm mag with the factory brake, this debate could go on for months. I have a friend with a vias brake on a 338 ultra, I'm cool with it if you really need it. But my good hell make sure I'm watching what your doing when you shoot, I've lost hearing cause he smoked a rock chuck one day during our lunch break and I was digging in my pack for something. I've had really good luck adding a quality recoil pad and recoil reducers on big magnums, takes the sting out and reduces a fair amount of recoil. My wife hunts with a 300WSM and we bought her an undershirt that has a recoil pad slot in it and she loves it, before she said that an extended range session made her a little uncomfortable. There are a ton of options to us now days.