hire a horsman to pack meat

[gypsumreaper]

Ya there are some needless laws that are virtually unenforceable. This is one of them. Nobody cares about this. You'll find plenty of ranchers, outfitters and fun riders in most areas in every state that can and will help out for reasonable "tips". If anyone complains just ignore them.

The question is what happens if these fun riders help pack out some gear or something along with the meat and their animal blows up takes off and slams into every tree on the way down and your gear gets destroyed, antlers all broken up and meat spread around the mountain? Are you just gonna say o well thanks for the help and walk away? Are these guys that are doing it to make a quick buck pay for ur $2500 spotting scope?
These laws arent exactly unenforceable as an outfitter it is partially our job to notify the forest service of any illegal activity that goes on. Part of our insurance covers damages that may occur, sure we have you sign a waiver but if something happens where my animal destroys some of ur gear I pay for it. It's customer relations.


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[gypsumreaper]

Agreed, especially when outfitters won't/can't assist you. I don't like the idea of stepping on toes and would prefer to use an outfitter.



Not realistic, but would be nice to have an updated list of packers by unit.

Usually if an outfitter is unavailable or won't do it for you, they can approve somebody else whether it be a random horseman or even another outfitter to do it. Not all will do this but if I am that unavailable and that busy I have guys I can call to do it for you and I will just sign a release that says they can do this on my permits. Better than getting a federal offense against you.


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[Slugz]

Avalanche Outfitters in Redstone, CO


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Is that operation still for sale?

 

[gypsumreaper]

No it is not


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[Zim]

Agreed, especially when outfitters won't/can't assist you

Not realistic, but would be nice to have an updated list of packers by unit.

I always locate a few packers in advance of each hunt wherever I draw a tag. Once in a while it's rough due to poor forest service road access but not normally. I post on forums or call around to locate packers.

 

[Zim]

The question is what happens if these fun riders help pack out some gear or something along with the meat and their animal blows up takes off and slams into every tree on the way down and your gear gets destroyed, antlers all broken up and meat spread around the mountain? Are you just gonna say o well thanks for the help and walk away? Are these guys that are doing it to make a quick buck pay for ur $2500 spotting scope?
These laws arent exactly unenforceable as an outfitter it is partially our job to notify the forest service of any illegal activity that goes on. Part of our insurance covers damages that may occur, sure we have you sign a waiver but if something happens where my animal destroys some of ur gear I pay for it. It's customer relations.


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The OP asked about packing game out, not gear. I've never had a stranger pack anything out except elk, nor would I. When I've applied for drop camp services I've gone through a licensed outfitter.

 

[ivorytip]

yeah just help packing meat out. been some great info though, I had no idea!! thanks for all the replies. some laws seem pretty stupid but I understand how that would be frustrating for an outfitter.

 

[gypsumreaper]

There is always ways around it, you could rent horses from someone and pack it out urself as well, you could pack it out on ur back, have buddies come in all that. But there are deals going on with renting horses and how to go about that legally. Plus if you injure one or kill it it's usually a minimum $5000 out of your pocket to replace the animal.


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[njdoxie]

Good info in this thread, it can be a thorny issue.