Gov Shutdown and Federal hunting lans

Musket Man

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Well, according to the BLM website all BLM lands are CLOSED to the public and outfitters with permits cannot operate! Looks like I'm screwed for Elk hunting next week (I hunt BLM) Unless those worthless S.O.B.'s in Washington do something very soon. I have my Grandson coming out for his first Elk hunt this year....Obama & Biden and the Democrats and the Republicans are all to blame.
I dont see how they can close anything thats not behind a gate that would normally have someone at it or how they could possibly enforce it elsewhere. I doubt most people hunting BLM of forest service land have even thought it could be affected by the shutdown and some probably dont even know the gov is shut down. Alot of hunters were probably already camped on BLM ready for antelope to open on 10/1 and wont even hear about the shutdown untill after their hunt. Im sure no one that paid for a tag planning to hunt public land will be offered a refund. If no one is allowed to hunt on BLM it would kill 3/4 of all antelope hunting in WY this year since most seasons open 10/1 and antelope are hunted on BLM more then anything else.
 

BleuBijou

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Oct 14, 2012
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As long as it is not controlled access like needing a permit or having to pay someone , you are fine. They have closed some lakes and boat ramps. One is Blue Mesa here in Colo. It has a new name Currecanti National something or other. Seriously, people can't fish?? I am wondering if we even need a government?
 

mcseal2

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My special draw elk tag cost over a grand of hard earned money. I'm planning to either hunt or ask for a refund. Since the refund is extremely unlikely I figure I'll hunt. Might have to be a little more picky about what I shoot, the pack-out will be real rough if they close everything but the highway. I'd hope state employed game wardens would cut a guy some slack if he had the proper tag and was hunting the proper unit in the proper season no matter what the situation in DC is. Western states that rely on hunting as a large part of their economy will really be hit hard if they shut down hunting.
 

shootbrownelk

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I did read it, and thanks. I also called Wyoming G&F main office in Cheyenne. I talked to a warden and he told me that BLM officials in Wyoming were NOT enforcing the closure mandate, except for campgrounds and other BLM improved/developed sites. However, then I got the "Don't quote me" statement. After reading that BLM page IP2506, I'm not going to fret about it anymore. I'm just going hunting on BLM (It is OUR land after all)!
 

BleuBijou

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Oct 14, 2012
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Don't worry about! Just go have fun and shoot straight. If I can make it through the Blizzard tomorrow I will be hunting only BLM.
 

y02MDM

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To all guys with tags and nowhere to hunt I am sorry. Sucks pretty bad. I can't see you not getting your money and points back though. F&W you would think would do the right thing and refund you.
 

Colorado Cowboy

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I just returned from a trip into the NF and BLM lands near here. Only a couple of things were closed. A couple of blm/bur rec campgrounds that have full hookups were closed. All other roads and access were open. Can't see then putting barricades up and stopping entry. Roads that are to campgrounds and other DEVELOPED sites ....yes. If I had a tag to hunt, I'd go....period. I looked at the website and it pretty much says the same.
 
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Our country is so screwed up it's not even funny. I consider the BLM and other public ground ours and not the governments. I get tired of them screwing our lives up worse every year and we just take it. We let a few big cities make the decision who is going to run our country every 4 years, and who do you think all of these people on the welfare system are going to vote for. Not someone who will do anything about it, and now we have to pay for them to have cell phones to!!! In the last election I believe it took about 55 million votes to win and there are now like 41 million on welfare, so the future doesn't look to bright to me.
 
Easy fix for this whole problem. Stop giving free money to people. Many of these programs put in place by our government over the years were meant to help people, not give them a loophole to not have to work.

Republican, Democrat or something in-between, who cares, fix the darn problem and do the right thing. This whole shutdown is over the ACA. Again another government program. Why not fix/address the programs out there before you bring another one into the mix.
 

Old Hunter

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Maybe if we stop helping the whole world we'd have plenty for the people here.

You're right. We need to get the freeloaders off the programs they don't deserve, but cutting the programs completely like the Tea Party wants to do is certainly not the answer. Lots of people are hurting, and need help.
 

ivorytip

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i have a brother in the national gaurd, another an officer in the army. my brother in the national gaurd works full time at a base maintaing vehicles. he was layed off due to this "shutdown" ordeal. pisses me off! hes been over seas in war, they pay him back by refusing him to work??? while those that arent willing to work continue to collect their monthly freebee checks, and im not saying this as a rascist statement so please do not take it that way....... are the native americans on the reservations still colecting their monthly freebee checks while our military personell goes without? im asking...
 

Old Hunter

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Washington better decide to give all the back pay to those not collecting pay now. I know that doesn't help when they have bills due now, but it will help some.
 

xtreme

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Republican house voted to fund the government, just not Obama care. Military needs to step up and move the Obamas from the White house this weekend. I don't think the Obamas are home.
Our hiking trails are closed, our riding trails are closed, it has cost way more to close them than to leave them open.
 

JPerryE

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Not true. Only developed facilities on forest service and BLM lands are closed. Public lands are used for recreational, ranching, hunting, fishing and many other uses. Only facilities such as campgrounds, boat ramps and the like are closed.
 

Colorado Cowboy

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Not true. Only developed facilities on forest service and BLM lands are closed. Public lands are used for recreational, ranching, hunting, fishing and many other uses. Only facilities such as campgrounds, boat ramps and the like are closed.
Just like I said in my previous post. You are correct!
 

trkytrack2

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It's funny but come the next election you "sheep" will do the same thing that you've always done. Either vote for the same S.O.B. to return to office again to continue the same old bs**t or not vote at all. If you don't have the b***s to do anything about the scum in Washington then quit bitching!
 

xtreme

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Arkansas didn't get the word, they barricaded the entrance to exercise trails in town, so trkytrack2, you are right, only sheep would put up with something so stupid.
When it comes to voting, I vote for the best candidate and never for re-electing anyone. I never voted for Algore, never for Obama either.
 

ivorytip

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we all know our votes dont mean crap in the presidential election, why we even have a vote for it is beyond me. its the house votes thats gets those power hungry animals in the big house. so your votes in the state that you live in for your states government is all the control we have when it comes to votes. side note, isnt it crazy that these guys spend millions on top of millions of dollars for a job that pays just over 100k? power hunger, it will b the end of this fine nation.