thanks, say when. just got back from fishing this morn, fished my usual spot but only caught one, so figured they headed up closer to the creeks and dam to ready up for the spawn, so I too drove up and found out the hard way that it is an impossible feat! rd was great, then questionable, then turned to absolute dung right now! had no choice but to start backing down hill in reverse, couldn't really gun it cuz of big drop off on side of a way curvy rd, then my tires sank through a layer of solid ice that was on top of a foot of nearly frozen slush! no service, nobody in right mind would be driving up that rd so got to work with my tinny backpack shovel and dug and dug and dug. only thing that I had that got me traction to get out was some old wool Pendleton shirts I had. set in 4 low and crept out. idiot!