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Good article. Got me to thinking too. I am 79 years old and I can remember lots of things that happened that we take for granted today. I remember when the first variable rifle scopes first came on the market. The first spotting scopes had different power eyepieces that you changed to change power. When you wanted camo clothing, you wore military surplus. It was a really big deal when Nosler came out with their Partition Bullet. I remember when Vibram Soles first came out.

The real big change came in the mid 80's for me. I was Manager of a large group of engineers on the B-2 Stealth Bomber program. We converted from drafting machines and boards and slide rules to CAD. It was a really big deal and a lot of my older engineers just couldn't do it.

Lots more to come for sure.
 
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Man CC you are old....

The sadder thing is that I'm not that far behind you and can remember all the things that you mentioned..Not to mention actually wearing army surplus camo when I first started to bow hunt with a homemade recurve. For us in high school the first place that you went to look at hunting clothing was the old army surplus store, they had some of the best stuff out there.

It's sad that those stores are disappearing. I love it when I get up north of Salt Lake City and go into the Smith and Edwards Military Surplus store. There you can still purchase all kinds of items right out of the boxes that the military stores them in.
 

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Good article. Got me to thinking too. I am 79 years old and I can remember lots of things that happened that we take for granted today. I remember when the first variable rifle scopes first came on the market. The first spotting scopes had different power eyepieces that you changed to change power. When you wanted camo clothing, you wore military surplus. It was a really big deal when Nosler came out with their Partition Bullet. I remember when Vibram Soles first came out.

The real big change came in the mid 80's for me. I was Manager of a large group of engineers on the B-2 Stealth Bomber program. We converted from drafting machines and boards and slide rules to CAD. It was a really big deal and a lot of my older engineers just couldn't do it.

Lots more to come for sure.
I find it amazing the products that were built before CAD took over. When it was still McDonnell Douglas i used to travel to long beach California in support of the md80 and md95 programs. They had hangers full of paper in support of the programs. Some data packages were so big they had to be delivered by forklift to the engineers desk.
 
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I find it amazing the products that were built before CAD took over. When it was still McDonnell Douglas i used to travel to long beach California in support of the md80 and md95 programs. They had hangers full of paper in support of the programs. Some data packages were so big they had to be delivered by forklift to the engineers desk.
When I started college in1959, there were no calculators like we have today. We used a slide rule to do calculations. I still have one some p[lace, not sure if I actually remember how to use it..LOL! We have come a long ways since then. Now I know how my Grandfather felt when he saw only biplanes when he was young and lived long enough to see men on the moon.
 
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Cc i think it was the b2, he got a patton to some piece he designed then the government bought it and he retired at about 30 or 35.
 

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Some of that surplus camouflage works pretty well. Woodland and tiger stripe, my favorite, are great when hunting hardwood forest before the leaves drop.

I love the smell of the Army-Navy Store. Unfortunately the smell in my local store is starting to fade as the surplus dries up and they order the imported Fox brand "surplus".
 

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Cc i think it was the b2, he got a patton to some piece he designed then the government bought it and he retired at about 30 or 35.
When I was working on the Space Shuttle in the 70's, myself and a tool engineer I worked with developed a new cutting system for Titanium and Titanium/graphite composite. We patented it, but NASA owned the patent because we developed it on a NASA contract and their money. Rockwell did give us a nice bonus tho...........
 

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Was it uphill both ways to school? haha Thats my favorite quote from a guy I used to hunt with.

"Got up, checked traps, milked the cows, cleaned the barn, then walked to school there was rain, snow, and it was uphill both ways" he used to say. Always made me laugh. He was tougher than an ax handle to the day he died.
 

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I know that in all the states that I went to school in that the trek was close to being uphill both directions. :rolleyes:

Then watching the kids in Denver getting a "snow" day the other day made me remember that I never did get a snow day. My mom would listen to the lunch report where they would tell the parents what was being served that day for lunch and if she knew that I didn't like it she would make me a lunch. I also remember up in Black Eagle, Montana when they reported that the boilers were out at the school and to dress the children warm so that they wouldn't get cold while we were in class. Then if the buses were not running our parents had to get us to school, and if we didn't have a why then us kids had to walk.

Those were some fun days. But back then you went to school to learn and not to play. The teachers didn't put up with anything from the students and if you got caught doing something that you weren't suppose to do you got sent to the principals office, and very seldom was it for a talking to.
 

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I still have mom's sliderule. I remember the first calculators showing up when I was in high school.

Does anyone else remember the old school rangefinders. Back in the day, they had their place. My geovids are the one piece of tech that I would have a hard time doing without.

I use to wear all of that old army surplus gear. Those heavy ass rain panchos, wool jacket and sweaters ( when they got wet you could barely pick them up), c rations, k rations with the 3 pack of cigarettes.

This tread brings back good memories.
 

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I still have a Ranging Range Finder. I could get the thing to work but it would always had to keep in check with the double image.
 
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I still have my old range finder, dials and images and heavy.

Still have my slide ruler, both the 12" one and a smaller 6" one. I will pull them out every now and then just to play with them.

I remember in school that most teachers wouldn't let you use them in class. They would say that you needed to learn how to do the problem longhand instead of depending on "technology"