Episode 159 Reintroduction of Woves in Colorado with Aaron Snyder and Guy Eastman
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But if the people you share with do the same, it may just hit a few who can be won over.
Wyoming Hart
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Lots of good stuff there. Hopefully the folks of Colorado will see the disaster that would create.
HighPlainsHunter
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Colorado just needs a few wolf sanctuarys that are a couple hundred acres that is all visible from one spot. Have a spectator area and let them eat road kill animals each hour. Charge photographers to shoot. Dispensary and coffee shop with a vegan cafe in the visitors center.
yeah . that's why I share them. even knowing most can not be won over. I even have family members who hunt ,yet still vote the dark side.
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my prediction is ,most of the hunters will. the rest will not. the masses simply can not be reasoned with.
people are generally all for ruining what they don't care about.
I say this because I saw them introduced in Idaho. people didn't even need to buy into the lies . they simply didn't care either way. and because they felt it didn't affect them personally ,who cares about those it will hurt.
you can't believe some of the things I hear people say. wolves won't hurt nothing.the ranchers just want all the land to themselves and such silly things.
I love the notion that people can be reasoned with but I have never seen any evidence of it being true.
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Slugz
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Listened to it and still stewing. Gonna listen again tonight, take notes so I can talk effectively about it.
IKIC / Guy,
Could we get some info on groups/organizations etc etc that are fighting this and getting the word out......I'm gonna have to get involved/volunteer....gotta do something to help out on this any way I can.
Thanks
IKIC / Guy,
Could we get some info on groups/organizations etc etc that are fighting this and getting the word out......I'm gonna have to get involved/volunteer....gotta do something to help out on this any way I can.
Thanks
I will get Guy to comment on this as well. I have seen that RMEF is opposed to the introduction and putting press out in that direction.
Colorado Cowboy
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The unfortunate thing is if this gets on the ballot, it will probably pass. We have too many nonhunters living in the eastern slope. They are for the most part very liberal (thats why Colorado generally votes Democrat) and control the vote in the state. I believe it needs around 200,000 signitures to get on the general election ballot. Look for November to be it. The signitures are being collected now.
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Thanks for listening to the podcast fellas. Here is the Bobcat Petition. These are basically the same groups that are fighting the wolf initiative. If you belong to a hunting/conservation group and do not see them on this list hit them up. SCI has done a ton of heavy lifting on this situation. This is all very, very important to our hunting heritage. Attend the local meetings as well. I have been told over and over again by G&F folks that public support at the meetings can be a real decision maker for the Commissioners, particularly with a diluted commission like CO has right now. Resident sportsman have the largest most credible voice in those meetings. Thanks again. -G
WapitiBob
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Colorado will need a USFWS approved wolf plan before they can do anything; that includes both sides of the issue. I'd suggest they learn from their neighbors and get started on one.
on a brighter note. all is not as bleak as folks make it out either .
the wolves were forced on us in Idaho , in the early 90s and since then, they have decimated our elk herds.
the behavior of the herds that still exist have altered greatly to the herds behavior in pre-wolf era.
that said , hunters with ability to adapt can still have great success here.
it will likely be 15 to 20 years before the wolves have a major impact in Colo. and most on this site will likely be dead before the herds are annihilated completely.
always being one to look at the bright side.... there is every chance the antis will get your guns and take away your hunting ability long before the wolves do!
the wolves were forced on us in Idaho , in the early 90s and since then, they have decimated our elk herds.
the behavior of the herds that still exist have altered greatly to the herds behavior in pre-wolf era.
that said , hunters with ability to adapt can still have great success here.
it will likely be 15 to 20 years before the wolves have a major impact in Colo. and most on this site will likely be dead before the herds are annihilated completely.
always being one to look at the bright side.... there is every chance the antis will get your guns and take away your hunting ability long before the wolves do!
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Bonecollector
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I would hope the negative impact the wolf introduction has had in other states will be an example of what can/will happen to those non-hunters who will be voting on this travesty. In prior examples, the devastation/results were not as easy to see. Now- maybe, just maybe....
the simple truth is , the non hunters in Idaho still do not care and would happily introduce them all over again.
humans seldom care about what does not directly affect them.
Umpqua Hunter
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So I don't know if it's just me, but I keep reading the title of this thread and every time I see "Reintroduction of WIVES in Colorado..."
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