Elk herd found dead!

wapiti66

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Since this (EHD) is caused by insect bites, I would think the only way it is possible for that to be the cause is if a large swarm of insects came over the elk and just had an open buffet. Especially since they all died together apparently. If that happened, which is obviously a very rare incidence, then Im a little worried about this swarm that's still out there ready to knock out some more herds of whatever. But, the fact that the disease usually takes hours to kill, and is not always deadly according to the story, makes me think when they were going through it they would have spread out (like I have heard these animals do when they actually have EHD also). Just some thoughts, but I too smell fish, some testing should clear this up sooner than later hopefully.
 

CrimsonArrow

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I see they're spread out a bit, but I've got to lean toward the lightning theory. It appears all the carcasses are near the only trees or cover on the hill. EHD would have pushed them to water.
 

Ilovethewest

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clearly, this is a classic case of an alien sacrifice ritual. It is what alien teenagers do on their night off. Kinda like an inter-galatic road trip / cow tipping thing. :cool:
 

Jimmy z

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Sounds like toxic blue green algae to me. Grows in natural ponds and lakes, can kill quickly, blooms in late summer and fall, and metabolizes quickly so can be tough to prove in tissue. A herd of buffalo was hit in Saskauwan some years back.
 

dying to kill

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That sounds pretty good to me, not sure how much rain they have had in that area tho. I did some research on the algae last year when we were in an extreme drought and I had a pond starting to get it and I cought it early and got my cows outta there. From what iv learned about it it only grows in extreme drought areas that haven't had any fresh rain run off.
Sounds like toxic blue green algae to me. Grows in natural ponds and lakes, can kill quickly, blooms in late summer and fall, and metabolizes quickly so can be tough to prove in tissue. A herd of buffalo was hit in Saskauwan some years back.
 

hoshour

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Sounds like toxic blue green algae to me. Grows in natural ponds and lakes, can kill quickly, blooms in late summer and fall, and metabolizes quickly so can be tough to prove in tissue. A herd of buffalo was hit in Saskauwan some years back.
All the ponds in NC have algae and the cattle never seem to mind.

Reminds me of the Jim Jones mass suicide - maybe it's some kind of elk cult. Elk may be intelligent and wary to us and be gullible as heck to one of their own kind. You never know. I'm sure Far Side cartoonist Jim Frederich could come up with a good caption.
 

dying to kill

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im talking about the toxic blue green algae, your talking about your common green algae. Very big diff !!
All the ponds in NC have algae and the cattle never seem to mind.

Reminds me of the Jim Jones mass suicide - maybe it's some kind of elk cult. Elk may be intelligent and wary to us and be gullible as heck to one of their own kind. You never know. I'm sure Far Side cartoonist Jim Frederich could come up with a good caption.
 

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We have that problem here with Whitetails. It seemed like it was quite a few individuals infected in a small area over a week or so. It was a dry year in an area with alot of stagnant water. the wildlife dept was pretty tight lipped on what the cause was. pretty sure that it was EHD
 

mcseal2

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We lost lots of good bucks to EHD last year in the drought but not in one area like that. I don't think that sounds like EHD. They were scattered in ponds and up and down creeks, not concentrated that much. Still one guy I know found 14 dead while combining a large soybean field that bordered a creek so maybe. The famous Midwest states for whitetail like KS and MO will be down for a few years after the EHD kill.
 

Ikeepitcold

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We lost lots of good bucks to EHD last year in the drought but not in one area like that. I don't think that sounds like EHD. They were scattered in ponds and up and down creeks, not concentrated that much. Still one guy I know found 14 dead while combining a large soybean field that bordered a creek so maybe. The famous Midwest states for whitetail like KS and MO will be down for a few years after the EHD kill.
I saw some of this same thing on a hunting show about the EHD in your area.
 

mcseal2

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It was truly sickening. I found 4 bucks, 3 of them over 150" dead in my hunting area last year. The trail cams show the impact too, it will be interesting to see what established dominance in my hunting areas by the rut. We are going to be real picky, giants or management bucks, until the balance is restored. I'm not sure why it hit the mature bucks worse but it sure seemed to.
 

hardstalk

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I think I saw those same shows ikic! Its dis heartning but humbling at the same time. Regardless of how hard fish and game tries, mother nature has a ruling, trophy or not she always seems to manage the game.
 
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I live in Indiana, and I hunt at home and in Illinois every year. I have seen 2 or3 outbreaks of ehd and it seems like it will hit one farm really hard and a mile down the road not do as much damage. It's pretty disappointing when you start finding bucks dead on a farm you have been trying to manage.