nunt'nbutmuleys
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Haven't received mine yet either and just seems like it's been awhile since I got my last magazine!!
EBJ Wyoming Elk
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billdoe708
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hoshour
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I got mine today, two weeks before the deadline.
When we schedule the states for different issues, a lot of it has to do with when the state releases the information. In some states, we literally get the numbers the week we send the magazine to print, sometimes even the last day or so. You have to know that makes us crazy and keeps us up late working feverishly to update the tables and charts at the last minute.
Remember that the digital version is usually out a couple weeks earlier because there is no printing or mailing time involved, so if you want more of a head start, sign up for the digital version. To get a huge head start, you can start with the MRS annual or the magazine from last year.
When we schedule the states for different issues, a lot of it has to do with when the state releases the information. In some states, we literally get the numbers the week we send the magazine to print, sometimes even the last day or so. You have to know that makes us crazy and keeps us up late working feverishly to update the tables and charts at the last minute.
Remember that the digital version is usually out a couple weeks earlier because there is no printing or mailing time involved, so if you want more of a head start, sign up for the digital version. To get a huge head start, you can start with the MRS annual or the magazine from last year.
Dave, thanks to you and the rest of the Eastman's staff for your work in putting a great magazine together. Maybe mine will be in the mailbox when I got home. I'm not applying for elk this year so it doesn't affect me when I get it. I thought that I had remembered from last year that I got it a day or two before Christmas. I updated my subscription a couple months ago, so was a little worried that my account wasn't updated. 
hoshour
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Thank you.
People have no idea how much work it takes to put those monster MRS tables together, and for me and the other guys collecting, copying, organizing, analyzing and writing these research sections, it means some really long days during the MRS season.
We cut the tables down to about 2,500 cells per table for the print magazines but the digital versions sometimes have tables with 3,000 - 4,000 cells or more to fill in - per table! That's one state, one species. And even that is probably a cut down version of what we started with.
We have 30-something data points we publish on the hunts we identify as earning a place in the MRS - 75 hunts in the magazines and usually significantly more in the digital and MRS Annual versions. While we don't publish all Colorado's 960 deer hunts, I download and organize data for all the buck hunts to look for trends and see if there are some that didn't make the cut last time but might have improved enough to make it now. Many of those hunt codes are valid in several units, so there are other numbers that need to be worked with for that one hunt code. And, behind some of those single data points are other spreadsheets.
For example, when I write in a sheep unit's 5-year average horn length for RM bighorns, it comes from a comprehensive spreadsheet I put together of details on every sheep shot in Colorado over that time. If I want to map that or something else, I'll make a map (lots of stuff to learn and maintain for that too) and if I want to illustrate with a chart, I do that too. Then I'll write about it and edit that more than once, collect some good feedback to make sure I'm on target, proof it, proof it again, then have the team proof it.
Just a little glimpse into what goes into putting these together.
Thanks for your support! It makes me smile to think guys are poring over what we put together to help decide where to apply and hunt and I wonder if maybe a buck on their wall got there in part because they made use of what we provided. I hope so. Thanks for reading.
People have no idea how much work it takes to put those monster MRS tables together, and for me and the other guys collecting, copying, organizing, analyzing and writing these research sections, it means some really long days during the MRS season.
We cut the tables down to about 2,500 cells per table for the print magazines but the digital versions sometimes have tables with 3,000 - 4,000 cells or more to fill in - per table! That's one state, one species. And even that is probably a cut down version of what we started with.
We have 30-something data points we publish on the hunts we identify as earning a place in the MRS - 75 hunts in the magazines and usually significantly more in the digital and MRS Annual versions. While we don't publish all Colorado's 960 deer hunts, I download and organize data for all the buck hunts to look for trends and see if there are some that didn't make the cut last time but might have improved enough to make it now. Many of those hunt codes are valid in several units, so there are other numbers that need to be worked with for that one hunt code. And, behind some of those single data points are other spreadsheets.
For example, when I write in a sheep unit's 5-year average horn length for RM bighorns, it comes from a comprehensive spreadsheet I put together of details on every sheep shot in Colorado over that time. If I want to map that or something else, I'll make a map (lots of stuff to learn and maintain for that too) and if I want to illustrate with a chart, I do that too. Then I'll write about it and edit that more than once, collect some good feedback to make sure I'm on target, proof it, proof it again, then have the team proof it.
Just a little glimpse into what goes into putting these together.
Thanks for your support! It makes me smile to think guys are poring over what we put together to help decide where to apply and hunt and I wonder if maybe a buck on their wall got there in part because they made use of what we provided. I hope so. Thanks for reading.
Naturebob
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Got mine in Phoenix on Tues. Seems like they come in bunches. Never a consistant basis.............BOB!
jmwyoming
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brdhuntr
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i'm still pissed that i don't get it in my hunting journal any more,so i have to buy the EBHJ., i still can't find it in Boise as of today. I really looked forward to the Wyoming elk section, about ready to cancel my subscription after over 20-years,and just pick and choose the magazine i want off of the rack!!
Bonecollector
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Received mine Thursday.
Brdhunt: I don't believe the "rack copies" have the MRS section. I'm sure they do the best work they can.
Brdhunt: I don't believe the "rack copies" have the MRS section. I'm sure they do the best work they can.
wapiti11
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Got mine today. Noticed that there's no speadsheet stats on there "marginal" units, just blue and green units. Previous years had stats on marginal units.
ore hunter
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hoshour
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We only have space for a certain number of hunts in the print edition and Guy had upgraded enough hunts that there were enough blue and green hunts to fill the space. The yellow (marginal) hunts are in the digital edition where space is not such an issue.
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hoshour
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They get to those in the East and Midwest sooner than the West, just by virtue of where they come from.
wapiti11
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All past print mrs issues I have seem to have plenty of space to print or include the yellow marginal units in the stat sheet page. Why the change now? The print mrs is then a 2/3rds complete mrs. To get the full mrs you need to subscribe to the digital mrs? I believe I paid for a full Mrs with my magazine subcripetion. Right? If you guys know that your printer company in Kentucky is behind why not, at least post up the Mrs stat sheet on the forum. That's "digital" isn't it?
hoshour
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You never paid to get in the printed journals all the hunts in the states we cover, at least when it comes to hunt/species combinations that cannot be put on a two-page spread. Only in the last two years have we started to have most writers do all the hunts for deer elk and pronghorn. On deer, elk and sometimes pronghorn we can only run what can fit on two printed pages and the rest we now make available in the digital version In most cases, those lesser hunts were not available at all prior to the digital version. We also now put all of those hunts in the MRS Annual.
Think about it. Colorado has roughly 150 units. Just covering 2nd and 3rd season would be 300 hunts or eight pages of tables in the journal just for deer. And then, there's archery, muzzleloader, 1st season, late season and 4th season. Elk would be another 8 pages of tables. No, we have never run all hunts in all states in print.
Guy had the same number of elk hunts this year as he did in 2016, around 65, all blue and green in both years. In 2015 he had about 16 more hunts but the print was so small you practically needed a magnifying glass to read it. It was my feeling that it was too small to be comfortably read by many of our subscribers and others agreed.
Our printer is not behind as far as I know.
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ore hunter
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mine just came on the 21st,,,time for last minute decision on Wyoming,,not sure but I may just pass this year as I think winterkill might be bad by spring,,,{rough so far}
The only reason I subscribed to the magazine was for the MRS. Now the Jan. issue never came and the online MRS is gone....
I have one day to decide on an Elk unit. Eastmans never replied back. If someone can take a photo of the section please PM me. Ill provide my phone number.
I have one day to decide on an Elk unit. Eastmans never replied back. If someone can take a photo of the section please PM me. Ill provide my phone number.
NE69
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I think the mailman is still reading mine. Luckily there isn't anything in the MRS that would change my app area.