Disastrous winter in Gunnison

JimP

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You have to remember that this has been a wet January, it is a record snowfall so far this month in Colorado. Now having said that you need to watch the snowy months of April and March and see what happens then. We could go the rest of the winter with either very little or no snow at all. Also while they are talking about how much snow we have there have been years with a lot more than we have on the ground right now. It is just that when you get a few ski resorts closing down because of the snow it all makes the news.
 

Slugz

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I just got a report of thousands of animals on the east side of Gunnison in the oak/sage flats and draws. They all looked very healthy and were able to scratch and eat. I may try to ride out there and get some pictures. Some very big deer running around also was the first thing my friend said.
 

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I just got a report of thousands of animals on the east side of Gunnison in the oak/sage flats and draws. They all looked very healthy and were able to scratch and eat. I may try to ride out there and get some pictures. Some very big deer running around also was the first thing my friend said.
That would be great. I'd love to see them.
 

hoshour

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I have been following this thread about the weather due to elk hunting this year around vail. It's not looking like the best year to go. I read that almost all areas are around 150% for snow pack which is a once in a great while event. This has me considering A Wyoming elk hunt more or deer hunt in North Dakota .


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Elk are not as much affected as deer. As for going to Wyoming instead, the winter has been worse there than in Colorado.
 

Matthoek21

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Keep us posted on this situation as I keep an eye on it as well. This may change my whole game plan. Big snow packs mean plenty of late summer water. Trout love water. I may have to switch gears back to my MT fly fishing trip instead. I may have 22 points before I ever get to deer hunt. I'll be an ol man wanting to rifle hunt Unit 2 or 44 or 211? Oh well keep me posted.
 

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Here's the latest snow reports for some of the ski resorts so far this year.

Snow Totals by Resort


Jackson Hole, WY
311"
Alta, UT
224"
Park City, UT
200"
Crested Butte
219"
Vail, CO
127"
Breckenridge, CO
176"
Telluride, CO
161"
Steamboat, CO
195"
Whistler, BC
209"
 

JimP

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But you have to remember that most of the deer and elk migrated out of those ski resort areas 3 months ago.

I did work in Vail for 30 years and used to watch the elk up on the ridges where the snow had blown off along with the herd that wintered in Dowd Junction across from the Forest Service building along with the other herd further to the east in Minturn.
 

Slugz

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Here is a decent way to check snow totals - http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/snotel/Wyoming/wyoming.html

The area I plan to hunt is still looking like a fairly normal winter. For most of the rocky mountains, it isn't doom and gloom right now but hunters should pay attention. The real impacts will come over the next 3 months if areas continue to be hit by storms.
I agree with HT. My local crowd out that way says all is ok right now. Animals look good, winter grounds are still ok and the normal CDOW feeding patterns are happening.
 

JimP

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I just took a 140 mile trip to the west along I-70 from my home in Gypsum which is just east of Glenwood Canyon to Grand Junction. The wintering areas along I-70 look fantastic, not that much snow.

A lot of you have to realize that the Gunnison Basin has always been known to get a lot of snow and has been hard on animals as long as it has existed. But if you are planning on a hunt in that area just be aware that a lot of the deer and elk will migrate all the way to the Montrose area or to other area that has very little snow. Right now everyone is saying that the sky is falling but if you are in the position to take a drive you might see it a lot different.
 

ColoradoV

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I would agree that I-70 is doing good things are going well over there this winter.

Also I decided to take a drive with a camera and here are a few pics of Gunnison area taken at dusk tonight or this afternoon to give you a feel for the difference in snow in Gunny right now and in Glenwood or Junction...

Tonight while I was shooting these pics the CPW heli was flying doing counts and I talked with a couple of guys in trucks one with CPW on the side who also feel that there are a lot of animals packed real tight on just the few out cropping of sage left. Trails are getting deep with a lot of winter to go and the snow is already belly deep on the deer.

Anyway here are some pics.














 

ColoradoV

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A few more that just show the snow






Walmart in Gunnison



Where I got lunch in Gunnison or behind the power stop

 

kyhilljack

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Here's the latest news as of today;
Plans entail moving wildlife from Hwy. 50 east, west of Gunnison
In the coming days, Colorado Parks and Wildlife (CPW will start a baiting operation in the Gunnison Basin to move deer and elk away from roads and to counter the effects of recent snowfall, officials announced early Tuesday afternoon.
A meeting in Gunnison to discuss the program is scheduled for 6 p.m. Thursday, Jan. 19, at the Fred Field Multi-purpose Building, 275 S. Spruce. CPW will be asking people to sign up, volunteering time, equipment, access and other resources in case they’re needed.
In specific areas along Hwy. 50 for about 20 miles to the west and 30 miles to the east of Gunnison, CPW will bait where groups of big game are gathering along and crossing the highway.
“We have seen a spike in road-kill mortality recently,” said J Wenum, CPW’s area wildlife manager in Gunnison. “Our goals are to protect drivers and their passengers by preventing wildlife-vehicle collisions and to be ready to go into a feeding operation if necessary.”
The baiting operation will help CPW to take an adaptive management approach as weather, forage and animal conditions change throughout the winter. Given the recent mild weather and forecast, CPW is optimistic that deer will survive the winter on their own. However, the bait sites can quickly be converted to feed sites if weather conditions deteriorate.
Significant snowfall in the Gunnison Basin began the first week of January, and so far, about 50 inches have accumulated in the lower elevations along the highway. Those lower elevation areas along the highway are also considered to be critical mule deer winter range. CPW defines critical winter range as areas where 90 percent of the animals spend winters.
“The importance of these wintering areas cannot be overstated,” explained Wenum. “We’ve been watching the situation closely, and so far, deer and elk appear to be doing well. They are able to move through the snow and to dig down to forage.”
According to Wenum, mule deer rely on stored fat to make it through the winter. Disturbing animals on winter range causes them to burn additional fat. People can help wildlife survive the winter by doing the following:
• Slow down on the highway and watch out for animals at all hours of the day and night.
• Avoid making long stops and getting out of cars or approaching herds of animals.
• Avoid recreating in areas where big game animals are congregating.
• Keep pets on a leash.
• Respect Bureau of Land Management, U.S. Forest Service and other area closures.
It is illegal to feed big game. Deer and elk have a complex digestive system and have specific dietary needs. Feeding them the wrong foods or feeding them at the wrong time can kill them. In emergency circumstances, with CPW authorization, people can provide food for big game. It is critical that the feed provided be the proper type to meet nutritional needs and be digestible by the species.
The basin has received above-average snowfall, and temperatures have been above average. This is in contrast to the winter of 2007-08 when CPW fed deer in the Gunnison Basin and heavy, wet snow fell in early December, followed by extreme cold, offiicials say. That winter, more than 100 inches of snow fell and remained on the ground through May. Deer had a difficult time moving and digging through crusted snow for food.
Deer and elk have evolved to survive harsh Colorado winters. Due to a long, warm fall, deer went into the winter in good physical condition. CPW will continue to monitor winter range conditions, evaluate the body condition of deer, observe their behavior and examine deer that have died to check fat stores. If wildlife managers observe that range conditions have deteriorated, animal body conditions have declined excessively, and foresee that large numbers of deer could die, CPW could quickly ramp up to a feeding effort.
“We know that people understand winter is a very difficult time of year for wildlife and that some winter mortality is natural and expected,” said Patt Dorsey, CPW’s southwest region manager. “We want to be flexible and nimble to changing conditions in the basin and are asking the public to support requests from CPW and local land management agencies.”
Some people have asked why CPW didn’t start feeding already. Any major operation takes time to organize and requires a lot logistically: specially formulated feed, specialized equipment, resources, volunteers, additional staff, etc.
“This is not a decision that CPW takes lightly,” Dorsey explained. “There are pros, cons and a lot of unknowns here. We would love to have a crystal ball.”
There are many considerations and trade-offs. Recent studies have demonstrated that concentrating deer in large numbers can increase disease transmission. Cost is another consideration. The 2007-08 operation cost $2.8 million.
“Our primary concern is the long-term sustainability of deer herds in the Gunnison Basin,” Dorsey said. “We know that’s the public’s concern, too and we appreciate their support. This will be a team effort, no matter what --- and we need everyone on the same team.”
 

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It looks exactly the same around Granby and middle park. My friend who is the biologist in Laramie said he is already seeing a lot of antelope winter kill and thinks the deer will be shortly behind. Winter of 100 years.
 

JimP

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The problem with antelope is that they will stack up along side a fence like cord wood and just keep stacking up.

I saw this problem over by Evanston one winter when I was working out there. They filled dump trucks with their caucuses.
 

HiMtnHnter

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I guess some places have it pretty bad. I'm in Laramie and don't see the "winter of 100 years". Back in 2010/11 we had a lot more snow in the valley at this time. I was having trouble figuring out where to push the snow. As of now I've only plowed once. We were under snow into May back in 11'.
 
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