Corner Hopping

87TT

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Have to be a pretty chickensh*t Deputy to write that ticket. Or in the greedy landowner's pocket. Exactly what damage does stepping over a corner cause?
 

mallardsx2

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The majority of states in the east property cant be conveyed without a right of ingress/egress AKA ROW..

I dont know why the GOVT screwed the pooch on this back in the day when they wrote the manual.

What I do know is that they didn't count on people being jerks to their fellow man....

And here we are, being jerks hiding behind our keyboards.

Its clearly time for a change so we can access "landlocked" properties. Unless of course you are the one with the golden ticket, then you want to protect it like its your sanctuary.
 
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swampokie

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Have to be a pretty chickensh*t Deputy to write that ticket. Or in the greedy landowner's pocket. Exactly what damage does stepping over a corner cause?
What ive noticed in most western states is a desire to protect the private property owners rights much more tenaciously than the public property owners rights. Sherriff or wardens its all about the same in the west.
 

87TT

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I totally agree with protecting private property rights. Just don't see why or how that means keeping me off PUBLIC land that belongs to me and everyone else. You can't tell me stepping across a corner damages anything. It's all about Greed period.
 

BuzzH

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Come on over to my place in Montana and let me know where you'll be crossing and I'll be glad to arrange an introduction to the Powell County Sheriff's deputy.
You're all talk...I have friends that corner cross in Powell County all the time.

You need to get out of the bunker...
 

rammont

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That's class rammont! Is the deputy a brother in law or does he just have permission to hunt ur spread?
How funny, and you accuse me of not having any class. What a typical antisocial knee jerk response. I don't even know the local sheriff but in Montana it's the law, corner crossing is trespassing and yes, they do write tickets for it here and they will prosecute. I don't know why people act like it's so unusual to restrict crossing over private property, my wife is from Kansas and you can't hunt anywhere without asking for permission from somebody.

For those of you who don't seem to have the common sense to understand the problem I'll try to point out a couple of issues that most property owners have to deal with if they allow people to cross without permission.

First, this sets a precedence that is hard to argue against if you ever have to take someone to court for damaging your property. It all depends on the judge but once you create a history of allowing people to cross without prior permission then you pretty much loose any chance of stopping it in the future.

Second, I mentioned damaged property, usually more of a problem for the larger land owners but even a guy like me (20 acres) has had issues with people too. It's been my experience that the people that think that it's OK to ignore property rights because it's to their convenience are the very people that damage the property. Some of your posts reaffirm my belief that these kinds of people are the problem, a lack of respect for other people's property, a refusal to show common courtesy by simply asking the property owner for permission to cross their property, and rude personal attacks (swampokie) just prove that you guys are your own worst enemies, why would I even consider letting people that show no respect toward my property or my person have access to either.

No, simply walking over an imaginary line doesn't do any damage but I've picked up a lot of trash left by those people. I've had to remove the carcasses of poached game and just a few weeks ago I had some guy try to drive up a walking trail that I built on my property (which parallels my property line), I suspect that he'd show up on a 4-wheeler and continue following my property line if I didn't stop him. If he had shown me some courtesy and asked if he could cross my property I'd have shown him a road that he could have driven that is open to the public and a couple of walking trails that I wouldn't mind him using, but now I doubt I'd even let somebody do that without getting their contact information and arranging for a check-in and check-out process. You wonder why land owners are such rotten bustards, it's because they have to deal with people like you guys.
 
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rammont

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You're all talk...I have friends that corner cross in Powell County all the time.

You need to get out of the bunker...
Crossing and getting caught is the issue, if you get caught then you'll probably have to deal with the legal consequences. Besides, I doubt if you know anybody that hunts in my part of the county, your posts make me believe that you'd say just about anything in order to get what you want or prove your point. Where in Powell County do these friends hunt and when, let me know and we'll see if we can test your argument.

P.S. If I live in a bunker it's because of rude people like you.
 

BuzzH

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Crossing and getting caught is the issue, if you get caught then you'll probably have to deal with the legal consequences. Besides, I doubt if you know anybody that hunts in my part of the county, your posts make me believe that you'd say just about anything in order to get what you want or prove your point. Where in Powell County do these friends hunt and when, let me know and we'll see if we can test your argument.

P.S. If I live in a bunker it's because of rude people like you.
Yeah, right, making it all up. My Grandfather built our family cabin in Powell County in the late 1940's which we had until the early 80's. My family has hunted "your country" since before you were born...and that's a fact. We owned property right along the Blackfoot river, and even prior to the stream access law, (which my family also helped pass), we allowed everyone to fish through our property. No big deal, Montana was like that back then, nobody threatened to call the sheriff, like you have on this thread. Why I highly suspect you're likely not from Montana, but a recent move-in.

Here's a picture of a bull elk my Grandfather (on the left), shot in Powell County right across highway 200 from our family cabin in 1970.



We knew/know all the old school folks that live in "your country"...and I still hunt there every year myself. To the best of my knowledge, my family has not missed a hunting season in "your country" since at least 1946, only disrupted prior to that, when my Grandfather in the above picture, was in Germany during WWII. He was born in Montana in 1916 in Ronan, and moved to "your country" in about 1922 and lived there until his death in September of 2000.

He also killed his last elk there, with me at his side, at the age of 80.



The same day he filled his B-tag too.



So, yeah, I have a pretty good feel for what's going on in "your country"...since its been "my country" for a year or three.
 
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BuzzH

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Rammont,

A few more from "your country"....

1981, shot by my Dad and I.



Yours truly, 1995



Me again...1988



Yep again...2006

 

BuzzH

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Some more recent...

2013:



2016, with my oldest nephew:



My brothers buck from "your country" in 2016:



Brother from some years ago:

 

BuzzH

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Circa 2001, 9.5 year old buck:



My younger brother again all from "your country"...



Me with another from several years ago:



Grandfather with one from "your country"...I think it was 1998 and he was 82:

 

BuzzH

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More from "your country"

2001...the first time I hunted Montana as a NR:



Was tracking a bull through "your country" and bumped this guy...saw the heavy beams and thumped him at 30 yards:



I should have let this one go...thought he was older.



1996, lots of snow that year...couldn't resist the bladed eye guards:

 

BuzzH

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The thing that really sucks about hunting "your country" is that elk will often ruin a good day of whitetail hunting by getting in the way...

Happened to me the first time in 1980:



This one was worth giving up a couple days of deer hunting for:



This one, I should have let go...it was a great day to hunt deer and I've shot a lot of them on the ridge this elk was on. This one did ruin a good day of deer hunting.



Deer weren't moving mid-day...but this guy was, really close to my truck and got a mean streak in me:

 

CrimsonArrow

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You sure have killed a lot of great bucks from rammont's country. I'm thinking Powell county needs to be on my bowhunting radar
 

BuzzH

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These bucks never see an ag field their entire lives...and there is no putting a pattern on an individual buck. Typically, the day we kill these bucks, is the first time we've seen them. Its all public land, some requiring a hop. The only other family that I know that has done even close to as good as we have, quit hunting this area about 15 years ago. It isnt what it used to be, but for the few guys that know the country, its still good hunting.

Plenty more pics where those came from...