At what cost will a hunting TV show go to ?

[MTHunter]

Please don't lump all "easterners" into the same category. I love my western hunts and have been taught from an early age to respect the land, the animals, and the landowners. My late grandfather started hunting in Wyoming since the 50's and my family has ever since. I spend weeks looking at maps/Google earth and calling local wardens to avoid trespassing and stay on public lands. and we always try to leave the land the same as when we came when camping. So not all easterners are bad.

My fear is that if the sell off of some public lands occur down the road.....how will I be able to pass my love of the western outdoors to my son? I am not a wealthy man and I fear our sport is headed to a "wealthy mans only" sport. Scary to think about.

Yeah I was rambling, I don't care where you are from as long as you don't try to change what we have, you don't violate laws, and you respect the land. I have people in my own town that can't even do that much so I was not blaming all easterners

 

[packmule]

Yessir. When you break it down and think about it, there are shady people in every county, in every state of the US. Just a matter of them getting caught to shed some light on it. Those kind of people putting it on TV/"book of faces"/random forum/Youtube for folks to fact check is a good way for them to get caught.

 

[shootbrownelk]

I remember a year or 2 ago, a host/producer of a hunting tv show was cited in Alaska & California for breaking their laws concerning hunting. This unnamed personality also is a big supporter of the NRA. I think some of them will take liberties with local laws so that their shows will come out the way they want them to, regardless of what really happens. We see it all the time when pictures are "photo shopped" and don't truly show what the original picture represented. There is too much money at stake from the various show sponsors and ratings.

Yes Cowboy, I remember those cases too. Nothing other than a insignificant fine was imposed, and the hoopla quickly faded. I think I know who the "un-named" personality was....If memory serves...his initials are, Ted Nugent.

 

[shootbrownelk]

Trying to cover their tails... Whether they had knowledge or not of the violations I believe they had a responsibility to know that what they produced and aired was legal activities. I believe coming down hard on them would be the best course of action. At the very least that should get the attention of others in the industry.

Hilltop, I wonder if the charges included interstate transport of illegal trophies? They certainly should have...that's a Federal charge, and not one to be taken lightly. Depending on the poached animals assessed value...it could and should be a felony charge.
These wealthy dweebs need some prison time IMO.

 

[swampokie]

I do not watch hunting shows anymore period! I used to try to filter through the bad to watch the good but it long ago got to be too much to filter. The outdoor film industry makes me want to puke! Unrealistic garbage!

 

[mallardsx2]

Some of the stuff I know about spook span would blow your mind...

He will do WHATEVER it takes to kill trophy animals.

 

[480/277]

I didn't follow all the links here. 2 questions
1 Did anyone admit wrong doing?
2 Are we not innocent till proven guilty ?

Let's not fall into the liberal media trap. If they are guilty
Then they should pay what anyone else would.
Personally I'd rather see egg on a lot of peoples faces....

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

Personally I'd rather see egg on a lot of peoples faces....

Ours or theirs?

 

[480/277]

The Fed's, media, company that fired them, and some here.

 

[ID_MW]

The ADN article reported one of the suspects pleading guilty to charges leveled against him, with another in a plea agreement. It won't take a legal expert to figure out laws were broken. Yes, letting dust settle and following the court preceding will be more prudent, but the numerous charges these individuals are facing are accumulated over a span of years, not an isolated incident. It doesn't look good for those involved. I suppose the best lesson here is for non-resident hunters to familiarize themselves with all the applicable permitting and wildlife laws that apply to their hunt.

 

[480/277]

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The ADN article reported one of the suspects pleading guilty to charges leveled against him, with another in a plea agreement. It won't take a legal expert to figure out laws were broken. Yes, letting dust settle and following the court preceding will be more prudent, but the numerous charges these individuals are facing are accumulated over a span of years, not an isolated incident. It doesn't look good for those involved. I suppose the best lesson here is for non-resident hunters to familiarize themselves with all the applicable permitting and wildlife laws that apply to their hunt.

Because the good Lord knows residents NEVER BREAK GAME LAWS.......

 

[packmule]

With one trying to plea out, I wonder who all's butts are puckered right about now.

 

[badgerbob]

We are living in very critical times for hunting. Anti-hunters are becoming more numerous and powerful by the minute. Every time something like this happens, the entire hunting community has to pay. This is fuel for the fire. I would hope the Sportsman Channel will take head and perhaps screen what is aired a little better. My guess is there were people from the Channel who knew something about this but caved in to the all might buck. It is sad, but my Father told me that "Money will corrupt an honest man". I am thinking he was right.

 

[Ikeepitcold]

We are living in very critical times for hunting. Anti-hunters are becoming more numerous and powerful by the minute. Every time something like this happens, the entire hunting community has to pay. This is fuel for the fire. I would hope the Sportsman Channel will take head and perhaps screen what is aired a little better. My guess is there were people from the Channel who knew something about this but caved in to the all might buck. It is sad, but my Father told me that "Money will corrupt an honest man". I am thinking he was right.

Your dad is rite my friend.

We will see what the outcome will be once the investigation is completed. I hope that all the wrong doers are prosecuted and we can all learn a lesson.

 

[ivorytip]

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Because the good Lord knows residents NEVER BREAK GAME LAWS.......

oh I m sure they knew the laws very well, they just don't care. like what has been said before, comes down to mula. they need federal hunting rights banned from them. that change things up.

 

[480/277]

oh I m sure they knew the laws very well, they just don't care. like what has been said before, comes down to mula. they need federal hunting rights banned from them. that change things up.

Sorry I'm not the brightess bulb in the light show. Let me explain myself. My whole point is we are our worst enemies. United we stand divided we fall. I'm tired of non dog hunters not giving a rip if bear/hound hunters loose thier rights. I'm tired of bow/rifle hunters butting heads. I'm tired of post like this that pit resident vs non and the subsequent posts on how it's them evil rich non resident hunters that are committing all these crimes. When in fact I would not be surprised if the percentages of game violations between resident/non are closer to even. I'm tired of laws restricting freedoms (like sheep hunts w/o a guide, or wilderness restrictions) that only benefit the outfitters while restricting the average guy from ever pursuing a dream hunt.

I'm tired of bird hunting my dog on state land and deer hunters getting pee'd off like they have more right to the land than I do.

I'm just tired of seeing us rip this sport and each other apart. We are all too ready to believe the media and tar and feather with out all the evidence much less a trial. Like that dentist.

Remember the post here, about Guy Eastman getting ripped because he MAY have been on a guided elk hunt. Instead of being happy for him one poster was questioning his DIY credentials. Why can't we all support each other instead of criticizing or implying wrong doing.

I'm tired of The land of the free and home of the brave,becoming a outdated cliche'

 

[Matthoek21]

Good point!

 

[Ikeepitcold]

I like everything you say 480. I think your insight is very similar to most here. I for one have not said anything about the guys being NON RES because what's good for one is good for all.

To look at another is Mr Jim Zumbo. Fired from a magazine and off the air from talking against tactical weapons.

Shouldn't we all be a part of the hunting and outdoors community? Stand together, instead of criticizing our fellow hunters? I think everyone here would say yes.

But let's be fair here too. Haven't we all had some sort of negative experience in the field by a fellow Hunter? Like you said a deer hunter getting upset that you where hunting birds or the monster buck I've been scouting for 3 months get killed on private land because some guy had a big wallet and was there at the rite time?

All these things I think give folks the attitude to jump rite in and attack guys that think they are better then the rest of us or think they can buy there way out of anything and let me tell you this is the case IMO.

When this all settles down and the verdict is out I'm betting the two fellas that have already been named with be the only ones that we hear about. The owners of the show will quietly move on and get started up on another network like nothing happened. If they truly didn't know that the proper paperwork was not completed then lesson learned, pay the fines and move on.

I assure you that most of the professionals that are on TV are much more involved with their preparations for their hunts then these guys.

"I'm tired of the Land of the Free Home of the Brave, becoming an outdated cliche"
Very well said!

 

[Sawfish]

The current crop of "reality" hunting shows is pretty pathetic with a few exceptions. Now if they could get some naked women with some fine hunting rifles on a Texas deer hunt they might have something Maybe "Naked But Not Afraid" (LOl)

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

The current crop of "reality" hunting shows is pretty pathetic with a few exceptions. Now if they could get some nice looking naked women with some fine hunting rifles on a Texas deer hunt they might have something Maybe "Naked But Not Afraid" (LOl)

2 posts....you really must be serious