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Mine is showing all the way back to EHJ 146 but numbers 153 and 147 are missing. EBJ goes back to number 87 with number 94 missing.
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Mine is showing all the way back to EHJ 146 but numbers 153 and 147 are missing. EBJ goes back to number 87 with number 94 missing.
Doe Nob
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Based on what you just said there, you need to bank points in WY and start bow hunting mule deer in CO. If you are able to do high country archery hunts, you can be chasing monster bucks in 0-1 years in CO, their archery tags are a huge bargain point wise compared to the number of points needed to rifle hunt the best units there. That said this is extremely physically demanding hunting. Gaining and losing thousands of feet of elevation daily and doing most of it from 11,000-12,000 feet.
The big drawback of WY is wilderness areas require a guide for Non-Residents. I like hunting wilderness areas because it cuts out the 4 wheeler traffic. That said it is a big sparsely populated state, so if you can find areas to learn, more power to you. Point creep there has also been atrocious the last several years. I can't believe a Region G takes so many points now, seems silly for a general tag.
Antelope are "easy" compared to everything else. Start banking points now, you can get a decent special draw tag with a handful of points in Wyoming.
I sure appreciate the advice.
I really need to get back in shape. Not that I am a couch potato by any stretch but I am going to have to work on my conditioning constantly. I want to make those high backcountry hunts. That is the ultimate goal. It is hard around here because everything is flat. The highest ground I regularly am in is 250-300 ft. I am going to have to get creative or buy an exercise machine that I can work on my conditioning with.
Of course, hunting season here this year will still help with my conditioning. Packing climbing stand and gear across country through the half knee deep mud is pretty good exercise but I will need to carry through the rest of the year somehow.
Colorado is one of the states that I haven't done a lot of research on yet. It sounds like it may be a good option for sure.
I was looking at Idaho last night and they seem to have some good opportunities for bowhunting as well.
We are going to Montana Region 7 next season for the general deer any weapon hunt. That is the plan anyway. If nothing else it will give us lots of lessons on what it takes to drive out west to hunt and give us an idea of what kind of physical condition we are in for higher altitudes than home.
nvgoosehntr
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Randy Newburg has a series of YouTube videos that breaks down the western states draw process for elk that's pretty good.
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Doe Nob
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You are talking to someone from Houston, it doesn't get much flatter. Here's a few ideas -
1) Pack stairs. You need to get a pack frame and work up to 50 lbs on your back. I have an outdoor parking garage that's 9 stories I can do or if its too hot I can get into the hotels downtown that are 20-30 stories. It really doesn't matter how high the structure is, you need to pack up and down stairs for an hour. I like to do double stairs too, gets into your legs more. It's boring and it sucks, but it gets you ready for what you are going to do better than anything else I've tried. Have headphones, music and push yourself.
2) Cardio. You can get all the cardio you need on a treadmill. You need to do high intensity intervals at uncomfortable lengths at an incline. Do one interval running uphill then one walking. I Like 2 minutes running at 6.5 mph 2 min walking at 3.5 mph all at a 6 degree or greater incline for no less than 30 total minutes. This will get into your lungs.
If there's a dam or any kind of hill with some length to it, do uphill sprints and walk back down.
You dont' need hours and hours of this, consistently pushing your lung capacity for 30-45 min a couple times a week with interval training will increase your cardio.
3) Weight training. You need strong legs and core to pack in/out. Squats and dead lifts are good - no need to go over 200 lbs. Good form is important. I do walking lunges with weights in hand - 25-30 lb dumbells. I like romanian deadlifts too. You need to do strength training on your lower body, back and core.
You don't have to go overboard on anything. Just get a good training program and stick with it. Incorporate those 3 workouts in and you will get there. There's no shortcut on this front, 1 hour 4 times a week should be considered the MINIMUM.
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Horsenhike
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Doe Nob that is a fantastic breakdown on training. Very nice.
For me four times a week year round gets to be a bit much. Easily doing that now, but for a lot of the last couple years have done a maintenance type program for much of the year.
I can keep myself strong on a minimal amount of time, but it is important to know that I work a pbysical job, and have pushed myself hard to become fit over the last decade.
Workout consists of three days.
A lifting day focused on bench, squat, deadlift, military press. Major muscle groups.
A run day where I do a 5k at a 10 mph pace.
A grapple day. Most people are not involved in wrestling, but this could easily be filled with a dvd workout, or high intensity workout of some other kind.
This is a simple plan that keeps me in fairly good shape so long as I am honest and push myself hard.
For me four times a week year round gets to be a bit much. Easily doing that now, but for a lot of the last couple years have done a maintenance type program for much of the year.
I can keep myself strong on a minimal amount of time, but it is important to know that I work a pbysical job, and have pushed myself hard to become fit over the last decade.
Workout consists of three days.
A lifting day focused on bench, squat, deadlift, military press. Major muscle groups.
A run day where I do a 5k at a 10 mph pace.
A grapple day. Most people are not involved in wrestling, but this could easily be filled with a dvd workout, or high intensity workout of some other kind.
This is a simple plan that keeps me in fairly good shape so long as I am honest and push myself hard.
Just an update on the progress made on this journey...
We are locked in to apply for the deer combo in Montana next season. Going to be hunting in Region 7. That will get us out there getting some experience and having fun. We are going to purchase more points for deer, antelope, and elk in Wyoming and purchase our first points for deer and elk in Colorado.
Season after next we are thinking of trying for archery deer or elk in Colorado and buying points in Wyoming or just buying points in Colorado and Wyoming and going back to Region 7 Montana.
I am having trouble narrowing down the areas in Colorado I want to concentrate on for deer and elk. I am just going to keep on doing research and try to get it narrowed down.
Wish I would have started buying points years ago in Wyoming and Colorado. Some of the areas just seem like they are out of reach it takes so many points to draw. At least I am getting my son points at an earlier age, he is 18.
We are locked in to apply for the deer combo in Montana next season. Going to be hunting in Region 7. That will get us out there getting some experience and having fun. We are going to purchase more points for deer, antelope, and elk in Wyoming and purchase our first points for deer and elk in Colorado.
Season after next we are thinking of trying for archery deer or elk in Colorado and buying points in Wyoming or just buying points in Colorado and Wyoming and going back to Region 7 Montana.
I am having trouble narrowing down the areas in Colorado I want to concentrate on for deer and elk. I am just going to keep on doing research and try to get it narrowed down.
Wish I would have started buying points years ago in Wyoming and Colorado. Some of the areas just seem like they are out of reach it takes so many points to draw. At least I am getting my son points at an earlier age, he is 18.
I got my Corrugate Guide Pants and BLM maps in. Gonna love those pants.
The BLM maps were somewhat of a disappointment. A lot of the areas that I was looking at thinking we could hike in a couple miles have roads that were not represented on other maps.
The BLM maps were somewhat of a disappointment. A lot of the areas that I was looking at thinking we could hike in a couple miles have roads that were not represented on other maps.
JimP
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You will find out that even in wilderness areas there are going to be roads, they may be closed roads but there will be roads. Even if you think that if you hike in 10 miles odds are you are going to be within a couple of miles of a road at all times.