2016 Crosman Airbow

[Maxhunter]

What will they think up next! The game depts will have to definitely change there regs. I wonder if it'll even be legal in some states.

http://www.crosman.com/connect/introducing-the-benjamin-pioneer-airbow/

 

[mallardsx2]

I'm not surprised...and im really not surprised that that moron Jim Shockey is showing it off....

Nothing in the hunting world pisses me off more than a crossbow hunter....NOTHING

 

[siwulat]

I'm not surprised...and im really not surprised that that moron Jim Shockey is showing it off....

Nothing in the hunting world pisses me off more than a crossbow hunter....NOTHING

I agree that this will require some changes to regulations. However, I don't see anything wrong with crossbow hunters as long as they are legal and used in an ethical manner. Anything that is used to grow the hunting ranks is good imo. For example, I don't have anything against a disabled individual using a crossbow to continue to pursue our passion.

 

[Hilltop]

I have mixed emotions on cross bows and now this new creation. I do think there is a distinct advantage to using equipment like this over a bow that has to be drawn back. However, if newer equipment like this can help people get out and hunt where they otherwise could not, it is a good thing as long as states write laws that make sense. To me, this type of weapon should be legal during black powder seasons, not traditional archery season. (unless a person has physical limitations that prevent them from hunting with a bow that has to be drawn back).

The pessimistic side of me sees this as a silent poachers tool that can be used out the window of a truck...

 

[Ikeepitcold]

It should only be legal to use during rifle season IMO.

 

[mallardsx2]

Just to be clear, I also have no problem with disabled people using them.

If you are physically capable of drawing a bow...you should be using a bow during archery season.

I strongly agree with the P&Y statement:

For the purpose of the Pope and Young Club, a bow shall be defined as a longbow, recurve bow or compound bow that is hand-held and hand-drawn, and that has no mechanical device to enable the hunter to lock the bow at full or partial draw. Other than the energy stored by the drawn bow, no device to propel the arrow will be permitted.

Consequently, the Pope and Young Club does not consider the crossbow to be a hunting bow and will not accept any trophies collected by crossbow hunters. Further, the Pope and Young Club considers the use of crossbows during bowhunting seasons to be a serious threat to the future of bowhunting.

The Pope and Young Club therefore recommends the crossbow should not be considered for use in any bowhunting only season. Also, the Club strongly recommends that crossbow hunting be abolished from all existing bowhunting only seasons. We encourage all states and provinces which desire to allow use of crossbows for hunting big game, to require mandatory crossbow specific education, licensing, seasons and reporting requirements.

 

[siwulat]

Just to be clear, I also have no problem with disabled people using them.

If you are physically capable of drawing a bow...you should be using a bow during archery season.

Agreed 100%

 

[tim]

where does the new Remington muzzle loader come in? basically a modern day rifle that takes blackpowder. Any different between that and this.

 

[CoHiCntry]

where does the new Remington muzzle loader come in? basically a modern day rifle that takes blackpowder. Any different between that and this.

I don't think so personally... unless you put a scope on it, then it becomes a longer range gun. Without scopes all muzzleloaders are pretty much in the same range. Most inlines aren't any different than the Remington muzzleloader. They just tout the "300 yard muzzleloader" slogan. Any inline will shoot 300 yards with a max charge when using a scope.

 

[buckbull]

I wonder why they choose to used compressed air instead of fuel cells. Fuel cells are used on alot of the cordless nailers like paslode impulses. 3000psi indicates to me that users will be having to buy highly compressed bottles of air that only provides 8 shots (perhaps those used for paintball?) Seems like more of a novelty than a game changer.

 

[Finsandtines]

It should only be legal to use during rifle season IMO.

Agree 100%!

 

[Tim McCoy]

Looks more like a novelty to me, but if a state wants to make it legal, so be it.

I personally see little difference between this air bow, crossbows or modern high let off compound bows, they all give a significant advantage to the shooter vs a traditional/recurve bow. Oregon was one of several states to change muzzleloader rules due to advances in technology that increased success rates. According to ODFW, they either needed to reduce tags to avoid over harvest or reduce effectiveness of the tool. Perhaps it is getting close to time to look at similar changes for arrow hunting, if technology is increasing their lethality too much.

 

[shootbrownelk]

I'm not surprised...and im really not surprised that that moron Jim Shockey is showing it off....

Nothing in the hunting world pisses me off more than a crossbow hunter....NOTHING

If you had severe arthritis in both shoulders like I do, you might sing a different tune. If it's legal it should be OK with hunters no matter what they use. And why do you call Jim Shockey a moron? That guy has killed more game with bows & muzzleloaders than most hunters, and ethically as well. What causes crossbow hunters to get your panties bunched up?

 

[shootbrownelk]

I remember when compound bows hit the market. All the longbow and recurve guys were sure it was going to be like shooting fish in a barrel. Not so. Technology moves on, always will. Infighting amongst hunters does no good. A house divided and all that.

 

[laxwyo]

If I'd had a crossbow when I started archery hunting, I would have killed a bull every year. Just point and wait for your shot. Likewise, a couple of bull elk I have killed with a compound, I would not have killed with a recurve. The line needs to be drawn somewhere and think that line should be drawn at compounds and crossbows should be illegal during archery season unless you're 12-16, 55+ years old or have a disability. This airbow isn't much different than a crossbow.

 

[GOSHENGRUNTER]

My. 02- I got to shoot this air gun at the ATA show and hear the demos. Very impressive. Is it a bow? Heck no. Is it a killing machine? Yeah buddy!

450 fps, 126 ft pounds of energy with the proprietary arrow.

I was very pleased to hear the honesty from the manufacturer. The stated it was not a bow and is considered a Big Bore Air Rifle. A few states allow hunting big game with BBAR. Its legal in those states an that's all for now.

Will I ever hunt with it? Prolly not. It was however the most fun thing to shoot at the ATA this year!!!

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[swampokie]

I don't see why we have to bring crossbows into this. I will never understand the stigma attached with the weapon. I personally hate muzzleloaders and use my crossbow during that season but muzzleloader enthusiasts have every right to use them without my approval. Its all up to the preference of each hunter as long as its legal and we should not put down anyone that sees things differently than ourselves. I don't agree with a lot of shockeys tactics and do not watch his show but he is a great ambassador for our sport and he deserves to be recognized for that.

 

[BOHNTR]

For those who claim it's no different than a compound bow, you need to understand what a bow and arrow is. Crossguns, airguns, etc., are not hand drawn by the archer and held at full draw like a longbow, recurve, or compound. BIG DIFFERENCE. For those who don't see that, your biases are tainting your logic.

 

[ivorytip]

pretty freaking cool gun though! traditional bows should have a special area for trophies outside of compounds. I don't shoot traditional but I want to badly!